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  1. prism

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Pleeze, although born again 49 years ago and have continued trusting in Jesus and His righteousness during that period, yet I am deemed unsaved by you?? lol, You're right, before that I spent 25 years in unbelief, doing drugs, the occult, witchcraft, sexual promiscuity, gambling etc. Yet God...
  2. prism

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Well, since I am consigned to unbelief (by you), does that mean Christ didn't die for my sins, nor have I hope to ever be justified? (am I being a victim of friendly fire?) 😵
  3. prism

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    So as a Calvinist you ought to be believing 'all that' (Westminster Confession of Faith). I think I made it ample clear that I believe one is an elect before the foundation of the world (decreed justified), and as an elect God works faith in their hearts (as a gift), whereupon they are...
  4. prism

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    He was addressing the Churches as if they were already saved, for example... 1 Corinthians 1:30 AMP But it is from Him that you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God [revealing His plan of salvation], and righteousness [making us acceptable to God], and sanctification [making us...
  5. prism

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    First of all Acts is a living example of the PRESENTATION of the Gospel and secondly Paul is using general terms like 'our sins' (1Cor 15:3) or pronouns like 'you' as he is addressing believers...not evangelizing.
  6. prism

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    ...(duplicate post by mistake)
  7. prism

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Ok, I'll just let you walk in your misunderstanding of my position... Here is what the Westminster Confession of Faith says in Chapter 11 Article 4... iv. God did, from all eternity, decree to justify all the elect;(1) and Christ did, in the fulness of time, die for their sins, and rise again...
  8. prism

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Thanks, but I'll just let @brightfame52 explain himself, otherwise..oh well.
  9. prism

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    This boils down to the meaning and tense of the word 'bought'. That wasn't a problem for the Apostles with their preaching in the Book of Acts. Not once did they specifically tell anyone that Christ died for your sins... not even to the Philippian jailor!... Acts 16:30-31 ESV Then he brought...
  10. prism

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    If you look at my first posts on this topic, I tried to express that it was a moot point. You're right, I should have kept it there. I laid stress on expressing my understanding rather than 'insist' the other view was wrong. I guess you fail to see the link between 'predestination' and 'limited...
  11. prism

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Thanks for your honesty. These false teacher claimed a lot of false ideas (called lying) such as 'the Lord bought me'. Yet they denied (contradicted) their claim of being 'bought' through their deeds.
  12. prism

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Fine, it's just not there, perhaps a Fig-Newton of your imagination. I see nothing.
  13. prism

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    What contradiction do you see? I see none. BTW, ad hominem attacks show a sign of desperation
  14. prism

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Since when did God work by chance? Did Jesus die for Judas Iscariot? (since He died for all) Mark 14:18-21 KJV And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me. [19] And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one...
  15. prism

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    I'll tell them the Gospel and let His Spirit do the convicting, illuminating, and drawing.
  16. prism

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    I already said we are justfied before God from the foundation of the world...from there He works saving faith in His elect.
  17. prism

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    It's not what Calvinists teach: From their own Westminster... Chapter X - Of Effectual Calling. i. All those whom God hath predestinated unto life, and those only, He is pleased, in His appointed and accepted time, effectually to call,(1) by His Word and Spirit,(2) out of that state of sin and...
  18. prism

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    And some unbelievers take Communion in unbelief and end up sick or 💀 dead... 1 Corinthians 11:29-30 KJV For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. [30] For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep...
  19. prism

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Where did I say it was an act of the elect? It is a gift which God works 'in time' through His sovereign providence... maybe you should reread your WCF.
  20. prism

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Those whom Christ dies for, He regenerates and they know beyond a shadow of a doubt. (Something I never learned in the Lutheran Church)... Romans 8:15-16 ESV For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we...
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