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  1. Albion

    Religion in politics

    Yes. I tend to agree with the following: I mean, it's shortsighted to feel that we can vote only for someone who adheres to every last item of our own religious faith; but on the other hand, Christians ought not to support someone who is clearly set upon using an elective office to minimize...
  2. Albion

    Does God control

    Here it is (post #8), so please stop with the denials. You can say that you meant something else, but it's clear that you did indeed write what we've been responding to (put by me in red for emphasis), And that's just to comment on post #8...because that was the post to which you directed us...
  3. Albion

    Does God control

    You may have meant something other than what you wrote. But all the reader can go by is what you did write, so your protestations at this point in the discussion are not going to work. Here is what you wrote: Not in those exact words, but if he did "cause" to happen what did happen, and it is...
  4. Albion

    Does God control

    Because it doesn't. If he had CAUSED Adam to sin, God would have shared the responsibility and guilt for that sinful act. He merely put it up to Adam to make his own choices. Yes. Yes. Probably because God wanted a creature who would love him and willingly follow God's wishes. But had God...
  5. Albion

    Does God control

    As Josiah was explaining, NONE of that adds up to God having "caused" the outcome. That said, if we want to return to discussing his willingness to allow free will to men or what the word "control" is supposed to mean in this debate, then that's fine. But "caused?" No.
  6. Albion

    Does God control

    No. Not if you mean by "control" that he scripts it.
  7. Albion

    Are people afraid of debate and certain groups?

    I don't believe that it was your basic math teacher who made a mistake. Also, referring to the Auschwitz data and it alone does not address the cost in human lives of what's called the Holocaust. I'm sure you know this.
  8. Albion

    Does God have to obey logic and reason?

    Fair enough. You may think that, but our God does not. The question here is whether there's something wrong with God or that the Judeo-Christian God isn't the real thing. In that case, you and we are simply followers of different religions. That's not unusual in society, although it's a bit...
  9. Albion

    Are people afraid of debate and certain groups?

    Well, actually it has been lowered. The real number is impossible to determine, in part because there is no way to firmly establish which deaths were the result of a obvious event such as the gassings of prisoners at the camps upon them being taken from the railroad cars to the "showers" and...
  10. Albion

    Are people afraid of debate and certain groups?

    Moreover, trumpeting the rare 'exceptions to the rule' (it being that millions of innocent people were sent to be tortured and killed in various ways at the direction of the Third Reich) is an exercise that should disgust every reader. And it is also worth noting that those alibis have been...
  11. Albion

    The attack on Germany is relentless

    That's fantasy, of course. There isn't a significant propaganda assault upon German culture and values. Moreover, that's essentially the same self-serving argument that's used by Hamas and similar organizations. In short, it says that because our side had some grievance, whether valid or not...
  12. Albion

    Which of the three attributes of Abrahamic God is less likely to be real?

    "If I were God, I'd do it a different way" is all that you're saying here. It doesn't make God be illogical or not benevolent, etc. As I was saying before, all you've done is tell us that you'd prefer another kind of deity--one who reflects the qualities that you (one of God's creations) has...
  13. Albion

    Which of the three attributes of Abrahamic God is less likely to be real?

    Well, I understand that your mind was already made up when you raised the issue. But it still is the case that IF God has a reason for doing what he's doing, it's illogical to posit that the existence of evil in the world somehow disproves the Biblical view of the nature of God. He could do...
  14. Albion

    Nikki Haley / the slave ?

    in fact, quite a few northerners saw the war as a struggle to keep the nation intact. When Lincoln decided, halfway through the war, to make ending slavery the issue with his Emancipation Proclamation (but only in the states that had joined the Confederacy, not including the four that stayed...
  15. Albion

    The Right Had it Coming

    I'm going to assume that the post/thread is meant as satire. But with messages on discussion boards, you never know.
  16. Albion

    Which of the three attributes of Abrahamic God is less likely to be real?

    and that's at the heart of this controversy. We are told in Scripture that God chose to give men free will. Had he chosen to populate his planet with one more variety of plant or animal that simply was what it was programmed to be and do, he might have made humans differently. Having given free...
  17. Albion

    Would you rather be Orthodox or Catholic?

    That's a toughie. In a way. What I mean is that Orthodoxy is more orthodox. It is free of the most grievous of the Roman Catholic innovations. But on the other hand, Eastern Orthodoxy is too esoteric, mystical, etc. for most Westerners, me included. The divine liturgy is beautiful in a way...
  18. Albion

    Which of the three attributes of Abrahamic God is less likely to be real?

    It was my impression, from your earlier comments, that it was omnipotence that you were thinking is logically impossible so long as evil exists. But it you were intending to say that He cannot be good and all-knowing so long as evil exists, I'd say that this is similarly mistaken. If God has a...
  19. Albion

    Nikki Haley / the slave ?

    I don't know exactly how I feel about Nikki Haley as a candidate for president, but I do sympathize with her in this matter. 1) It was a trick question and one that was totally unrelated to the present campaign. I'm sure that no one on the premises was ready for it. It was posed by a newsman...
  20. Albion

    Which of the three attributes of Abrahamic God is less likely to be real?

    What's actually "logically impossible" is God not being omnipotent simply because he allows evil to exist.
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