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  1. Arsenios

    Justification

    We have a story of a Saint in the Church sometime in the first millennium of this Faith of Christ... He had labored greatly for some 30 years in prayers, labors, fastings, vigils, Services and the giving of Alms, and God had given him the Grace of healing and exorcising demons... And a...
  2. Arsenios

    Justification

    That is a lovely contrast, thank-you... It is the means of the catholic view that you omitted and that may very well be out of the Protestant "line of sight"... eg Catholics become more and more righteous as they overcome more and more sins... And this is true, in a way, but we are fully...
  3. Arsenios

    Lent

    We begin with the week of Meat Fare, feasting on meats with no fasting through Sunday, then no more meat, but cheese and eggs and dairy the second week, followed by Clean week, which is the official first week of the Lenten Fast - On this week we do 2 Pre-sanctified Liturgies, and are allowed 2...
  4. Arsenios

    Lent

    ME wantum BE like Pedrito!! :) Arsenios
  5. Arsenios

    Justification

    Rom 8:29-30 For whom He did Fore-know, He also did Fore-ordain to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He did Fore-ordain, them He also Called: and whom He Called, them He also Justified: and whom He Justified, them He...
  6. Arsenios

    Justification

    Oh now that was an entirely unnecessary and unkind thing to say! :) But look, the point I put forth, that this "Imputed Righteousness" is in fact simply a reflection of the Holiness of God in one's initial encounter with Him upon an unrepentant soul that is a desert thirsting for the Waters of...
  7. Arsenios

    Justification

    I agree with your conclusion, that salvation can be lost... But "Imputed Righteousness" as Grace, while it would have to be, is a really really big Word... Arsenios
  8. Arsenios

    Justification

    I was just about to write about as a question: "Does Salvtion involve entering into Life Eternal in this life?" Orthodoxy says yes... And we know from John the definition of Life Eternal, yes? John 17:3 Arsenios
  9. Arsenios

    Justification

    Two no's and one yes... So do you have any sentence that might be: "In the Reformation theology, Salvation is understood as [10 words or less]."(Preferably one or two...) Is Salvation Justification? Is Salvation Imputed Righteousness? Is Salvation Forgiveness of Sins? The face of Salvation...
  10. Arsenios

    Justification

    I thought it was a good question... 1: Is there any person in the history of humankind who has ever had Christ's Righteousness imputed to him or her by God who by that action is somehow not saved? 2: Is there any person in the entire history of mankind who has ever NOT had Christ's...
  11. Arsenios

    Justification

    White on rice, I say! :) Cheerleaders are annoying, n'est pas? I keep remembering Christ asking the Jews: "The Baptism of John: Is it from man, or from God?" But I do not think these folks will duck and run like the Jews did... Arsenios
  12. Arsenios

    Justification

    OK - True or False? Salvation in the Reformed understanding... IS The imputation of the Righteousness of Christ... Or maybe so and maybe no?? Arsenios
  13. Arsenios

    Justification

    Well who could ever possibly argue against THAT??? :) Well, I always thought these were stand up and be counted guys, and the evidence we are seeing here denies my thoughts - Always a good thing, mind you... But even so... I mean, just take the flippin' logic to wherever it goes without...
  14. Arsenios

    Justification

    The condition of the human soul that does what is right... The doing of right is righteousness... It is the product of the virtue of doing right... Because we become what we do... Do evil and you become evil... Do good and you become good... We have both good and evil in our hearts... And this...
  15. Arsenios

    Justification

    Thank-you for your depression - Because it reflects my own frustration with myself for not being able to frame a question in a way that the Reformed will answer. I asked if the Reformed believe that it is the Righteousness of Christ that saves man... No one here has yet answered yes, or no...
  16. Arsenios

    Justification

    Do the Reformed believe that we are saved by Christ's Righteousness? Righteousness is the Fruit of Virtue... Ungodliness is the fruit of sin... Is Christ's Righteousness imparted to us without us acquiring virtue? Or is it but (fictionally) imputed to us who never have to try to acquire...
  17. Arsenios

    Justification

    How do you then avoid the charge that conversion comes after Salvation? John came preaching the Kingdom by repenting from sin... You come preaching the Gift Salvation/Justification so that we CAN repent, not mentioning the Kingdom... Can you see my dillemma? Whom am I to believe? Then came...
  18. Arsenios

    Justification

    So much for my now falsified theory of the All Night Vigil Services... Arsenios
  19. Arsenios

    Justification

    Maybe he started doing the Service of the All Night Vigil... A.
  20. Arsenios

    Justification

    Do the Reformed believe that we are SAVED by Christ's Righteousness? Do they deny that becoming right with God is an ongoing work of repentance? Arsenios
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