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  1. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    If Luther had read that partial blindness would come upon Israel maybe he wouldn't have had such high expectations of the Jews when he introduced his new Gospel (compared to Rome's), thus sparing him his focused anger against the Jews.
  2. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    yes, and? (same as all people dying in unbelief)
  3. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Romans 11:23,25 KJV And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, (v.23) shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. [25] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is...
  4. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    So is Rom 11:25 law or gospel for Israel? God's Word should trump our doctrinal devices (in this case,..of law and gospel).. Romans 11:25 LSB For I do not want you, brothers, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has...
  5. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Again, this thread is about Luther's attitude toward the Jews, especially his work, "The Jews and their lies" 1543. (sorry for my off-topic reply-post #29)
  6. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Oh I read what you wrote, but I don't understand most of it, especially how it relates to the OP.
  7. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Perhaps Luther should have trusted the Holy Spirit to do His work through his (Luther's) Law/Gospel motif? Even Paul was not successful at converting all the Jews because Paul knew and wrote... Romans 11:25 KJV For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should...
  8. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    This much history I know... the Papacy, incorporated under the name of Christ, is the greatest spiritual murder agency in existence.
  9. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Please. Is this how you dodge my question? Again,.. 'your point'?
  10. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Rambling? Your point?
  11. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    I don't think this happened during Luther's time
  12. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    If only Luther was mindful of his own explanation of the Third Article of the Creed concerning the Holy Spirit.. "I believe that I cannot by my own reason or strength believe in Jesus Christ my Lord, or come to Him; but the Holy Ghost has called me by the Gospel, enlightened me with His...
  13. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    There still seems to be a lot of wishy-washy with Luther. First , he courts the Jews, then appx. 15 years later, he castigates them. Could he have been influenced by Anton Margaritha (see quote in post #9)?, Otherwise it doesn't make much sense.
  14. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Hiding in plain sight...From Luther's Works V47 in the preface to "The Jews and Their Lies" is a plausible explanation... key figures in both the Protestant and the Roman Catholic camps had issued blasts against the Jews. The Strassburg Reformer Martin Bucer published a treatise On the Jews in...
  15. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Perhaps, but he truly zeroed in on the Jews circa 1543 when he wrote The Jews and Their Lies and it's writing coincidentally happened shortly after reading Anton Margaritha's book. Margaritha, a convert to Christianity who had become a Lutheran, published his antisemitic book in 1530. In 1539...
  16. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Jesus died for them as well as Jews too. 1 Corinthians 5:13 CSB God judges outsiders. Remove the evil person from among you. It's not our job to pass judgment on those outside the faith, except they need the Gospel.
  17. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    I just wonder if Luther wrote with such vehemence against others as he did the Jews? I don't believe it was racially or even doctrinally motivated as much as perhaps coming under spiritual influences in the late 1530s. In fairness to Luther, he spoke highly of the Jews in his early writings.
  18. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    I know, but the following is a bit over the top... to burn down Jewish synagogues and schools and warn people against them to refuse to let Jews own houses among Christians to take away Jewish religious writings to forbid rabbis from preaching to offer no protection to Jews on highways for...
  19. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    I'm not looking for an apology from Lutherans, it's just that Luther was the main fountain of Lutheran theology. Obviously, none of the Reformers were perfect. Ridley, Melancthon, Calvin, etc.
  20. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Yes I do realize that, but on the other hand I realize Jesus and His Apostles were all Jewish, and besides, when it comes to the charge of Christ killers, weren't the Gentiles just as guilty?... even God the Father is implicated Acts 4:27-28 NKJV "For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom...
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