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  1. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Jew, non Jew, Arab, semite, antisemite, Lutheran, RC, Communist, Capitalist, it doesn't really matter for all have sinned and Luther should have known better and as he said, "I have done nothing. So it happened that while I slept or while I drank a glass of Wittenberg beer with my friend Philip...
  2. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    That false Jewish religion is called Judaism, not the Faith of Abraham, but Luther used the name 'Jews' not Judaism. This thread has very little to do with Hitler. Hitler didn't write the book, "The Jews and Their Lies". ..Hitler may have used it as an excuse, but that's another thread. Why...
  3. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    The Jewish religion (OT) pointed to Thee Christ of Scripture. Just because they refused the true Jesus, doesn't make that 'religion' a false one. (iow, no need for Luther to attack it).
  4. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    You'll probably have to define Jewish religion, since theirs include the OT which points to Jesus. Romans 9:4-5 ESV They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. [5] To them belong the patriarchs, and from...
  5. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Josiah kept making the point that it was the 'religion' not the 'race'. My point was that the Jewish 'religion' (OT), pointed to Christ.
  6. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    This is a quote from the first paragraph of post #6 "It should be kept in my mind that Luther’s later anti-Jewish tracts were written from a position different than current concept of anti-Semitism. Luther was born into a society that was anti-Judaic, but it was not the current anti-Judaic type...
  7. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Culture is a changing thing, the issues from our depraved hearts (including Luther's) is constant regardless of the culture.
  8. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    'Circling the wagons' /waggons (German), was in response to.. 'only because people who don't understand the history behind Luther's comments keep bringing it up.' IOW, I'm trying to understand the history, but the history keeps being whitewashed.
  9. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Whatever it takes to keep circling the "waggons".
  10. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    I don't recall Luther writing a book on "The Germans and Their Lies", or Italians or French etc. Maybe the German and other Lutherans can clear the air of 'Hitler's abuse of Luther' by speaking about it instead of hiding it as adiaphora.
  11. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    I'm talking about side conversations/radio hosts etc.
  12. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    As I said in post #9... ******************************************************************************* I just wonder if Luther wrote with such vehemence against others as he did the Jews? I don't believe it was racially or even doctrinally motivated as much as perhaps coming under spiritual...
  13. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Yes, just as anyone dying in unbelief. Still, no excuse for rants.
  14. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    That sounds like Rome's answer to Luther. Luther, most likely would have most likely responded, "God's Word is God's Word regardless of man's interpretation".
  15. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    In short, to reject His Word is to reject the Savior revealed in the Word, and God is not responsible for that.
  16. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    It has nothing to do with making me sound as if no Jews would come to faith. (Please don't turn this on to me.) Luther knew the Apostles and first disciples were all Jews. The text says 'partial blindness until the fullness of the Gentiles'. Luther, who wrote a commentary on Romans should have...
  17. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    I can easily relate to Luther's et al polemic methods. I have often been accused of being 'insensitive', 'unloving' etc...but so was Jesus in Mt. 23. Again, he could have saved himself the frustration by taking serious Rom 11:25. See my last comment above regarding Rom 11:25. Romans 11:25 KJV...
  18. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    Yes, but even Luther would agree that biblical principles are timeless.
  19. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    I'll ask you the same question I asked Lamb..."are you saying the Jews deserved Luther's tongue lashing more than the Gentiles despite Romans 3:9? I have no desire that Lutherans should turn from their faith (I am saddened when I see Lutheran pastors going back to Rome or hopping over to...
  20. prism

    A Lutheran Roadblock

    That doesn't change the fact of this part of God's Word... Romans 11:25 KJV For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. This may...
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