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  1. Lucian

    What did you get for Christmas?

    Thanks. Do you have health problems too?
  2. Lucian

    Pope on Christmas:

    What can I say? He's right. It's a nice message.
  3. Lucian

    What did you get for Christmas?

    A flareup of my chronic gallbladder pain. The day before I got a flareup of my intercostal neuralgia. You know, the things I've been begging the omnibenevolent God to heal me of for the past years.
  4. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    Well, Jesus disagrees. Luke 9:50 Nowhere in the Bible is there a list of beliefs one has to hold in order to be called a Christian. The minimum thing that is said about the word "Christian" is that they were disciples / followers of Christ.
  5. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    According to the forum rules, we should address the ideas expressed in the posts, not the person expressing them. Who posts these ideas should be irrelevant. But I do agree that Eastern Orthodoxy does not represent my current views, so I changed it to Christian. I accept Jesus Christ as the...
  6. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    Thank God that the god you fabricated in your belief system is only a fabrication. Such a being would be unworthy or worship.
  7. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    Seeing how belief is not a choice, it is not volitional, it is not something I can choose to have, then there is an obvious problem with this salvation criterion. A pot that didn't ask to be created and refuses to be a pot should be removed from existence in a non-painful manner or offered to...
  8. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    Only if you are able to stop him from doing so. If there's nothing you can do to stop him or you don't know about it, you obviously can't be blamed. But if he tells you that he wants to sleep in the snow and freeze to death and you allow it, then you are responsible for not trying to stop a...
  9. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    If you form 3 clays pots that have consciousness and can experience physical and emotional pain, most people would agree that sending two of them to be tortured for eternity makes you an evil being.
  10. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    Could you quote the post where you mentioned the answer? I can't find it.
  11. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    The fact is I still don't understand what your beliefs are regarding the atonement. Could you summarize in a paragraph or two which aspects of Christianity you believe and which you reject?
  12. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    When did I do that? Please quote where I said that. I initiated this topic by asking if people think that the doctrine of Penal Substitution is incoherent.
  13. Lucian

    I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. You should try moving her to a hospital with more...

    I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. You should try moving her to a hospital with more competent staff.
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  14. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    I don't understand why you keep mentioning Genesis. I read it. I did not find the answer there. I'm not saying that the answer is not there, but that I did not find it. If you found it, please share it with me.
  15. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    I don't agree with that verse because my perception of reality shows differently. Even if it is God's word, even if God Himself said that verse, my perception of reality still shows differently. So I will tell God this fact, that His reality and my reality show differently. I am unable to change...
  16. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    I'm not denying that He did provide that way. But I want to know the reason for why that particular way was necessary. And that reason is not in the Bible. It says that Jesus died for our sins. I know that. I'm not disputing that. But the phrase is vague. Why did our sins require anyone to die...
  17. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    I don't find belief to be volitional, so you saying that "I don't believe the book" makes no sense to me, as I am unable to choose to believe if I am not convinced of something. I have tried to act as if I believed, by repeatedly reading the Bible and praying almost daily for two years. My...
  18. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    They have already been discussed on this forum: Atonement view
  19. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    What premise? I asked a simple question: is our definition of the word "kindness" flawed according to God's morality? Yes or no?
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