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  1. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    Wrong. Eve (presumably) heard God. With her own ears. I did not. I was merely told that a book was His word. No God spoke to me to confirm that it was. I will trust God when I have enough reason to trust God. So far, I don't think I do. And if I am wrong for thinking so, then may God forgive...
  2. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    Oops. I mistook you for the original poster. So you're an universalist? That makes sense, I guess.
  3. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    There are at least 7 different atonement theories, all of them explaining the reason for Jesus' sacrifice.
  4. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    I have read the Bible numerous times. I don't know why some people assume that I would engage in theological debates on Christian topics without having read the Bible. Then how do you explain the numerous interpretations, the numerous opinions, the numerous Christian groups / sects etc.?
  5. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    I am confused. You said you were a Calvinist. Calvinism doesn't support the idea of universal salvation.
  6. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    Yes, you are. But only temporarily.
  7. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    I don't get how I'm doing that, but let's assume that I am. I'm mixing what I am familiar with into the Biblical concepts. Human standards are what we use to assess the world. In order for a conversation about morality to be had, we need a common moral denominator. You reject human standards...
  8. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    It's not about knowing everything. It's about knowing the essentials. Especially when the stakes are so high (eternal punishment). Because I am a mere nominal Orthodox who doesn't hold to the core beliefs. In fact, I have yet to find a Christian denomination or sect whose doctrines I fully...
  9. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    That's absolute nonsense because they did not consent to being created and to living by God's rules. They did not ask to be brought into existence. When you bring someone into existence, you're responsible for that being to the best of your abilities. And when your abilities are infinite, you're...
  10. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    @Josiah, how does the fact that we are not given a reason for the necessity of His incarnation, death and resurrection sit well with you? It doesn't sit well with me at all. And this is because God is called light without shadow. Why would He choose to keep something as important as the reason...
  11. Lucian

    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    I just want to address this point. I want to know if Calvinists think that we, humans, have a flawed definition of the concept of "kindness". Genuine question. Do you think that the definition of the word "kindness" that is found in our dictionaries is incorrect according to God's morality...
  12. Lucian

    The Unmentionable Truth behind “Christ Paid for the Sins of All”.

    @Stravinsk, do you believe that Jesus Christ died as a substitution for us because God was wrathful?
  13. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    I am trying to follow your line of reason, I really am. Please try to make sense. Your counterargument to the ideas expressed in the video was that it misses God's reason for the creation of the universe. You never mentioned what the reason was, and then went on a tangent and enumerated some...
  14. Lucian

    The Official Chat Thread - Part 3

    Happy Christmas to you too! 🎄✝️
  15. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    I don't understand. Are you saying that sin always existed, even before satan rebelled?
  16. Lucian

    Do you agree that there are verses in the Bible that seem to express contradictory ideas?

    The question is in the title. If you agree with this fact, why do you think that there are verses that seem to express contradictory ideas? If you don't agree, why do you think about the people who point out these verses that you don't find contradictory?
  17. Lucian

    The Unmentionable Truth behind “Christ Paid for the Sins of All”.

    Faith without works is dead. What is translated as faith is a Greek word that actually means something like "allegiance". Allegiance to Jesus' cause.
  18. Lucian

    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    Short, clear and to the point. Take 4 minutes of your time to watch this video and share your counterarguments.
  19. Lucian

    Do you think sinning is unavoidable?

    I know that she was probably overwhelmed by her emotions, given the circumstances, but I really wish the woman who was rescued from the stoning (or the paralytic in John 5:14-15) had replied to Jesus something along the lines of, "but I am unable to stop sinning, Lord". See, it's stuff like this...
  20. Lucian

    The game was rigged from the start.

    The game was rigged from the start.
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