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    2 Questions for Trinitarians

    Since no one else responded to you yet, I will point out that it is not your disagreement that is objectionable, but your deliberate insult and contempt. It would be equally rude and improper for me to visit the Non-Mormon portion of a Mormon site and post “Joseph Smith is a real crackpot and...
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    2 Questions for Trinitarians

    Someone that believes none of what we believe is going to correct all of us on what we really believe.
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    2 Questions for Trinitarians

    ”God in three persons” is not the same as “God is three persons” and SONGS are not the source of Christian Truth … Sola Scriptura (SCRIPTURE alone). The Athanasian Creed comes closer, but only scripture expresses the truth perfectly.
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    God will use his symbolic sword to slay the enemies of Christ during and after the War of Armageddon (Revelation 19:21).

    I disagree. Revelation is highly symbolic and a “sword” coming out of the mouth of the LORD is more likely a reference to the Word of God. God created the universe by speaking it into existence (Genesis 1) and this was done by the WORD, Jesus Christ (John 1) so it is not inconceivable for the...
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    10 words or less

    Not REQUIRED: Romans 10:8-9 … “WILL BE SAVED”. Natural: Ephesians 2:10; Philippians 2:12-13
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    2 Questions for Trinitarians

    God the Father. Matthew 3:16-17 [NASB] 16 After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove [and] lighting on Him, 17 and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in...
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    I don’t think that it is true, perhaps you could list one. I think the quotes have MINOR differences that suggest the author may have quoted from the GREEK translation rather than the original HEBREW … which is not even close to what one sees in 1 Enoch vs Jude.
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    We will have to disagree on those points. There was already another entire TOPIC on Jude not “quoting” 1 Enoch. There is little difference between 1 Enoch (not written by Enoch), the Gospel of Thomas (not written by Thomas) and the Book of Mormon (not written about God). All three are the work...
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    Michael the “merciful and long-suffering” [Dan 10:13, 21 NASB95] 13 "But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia. ... 21 "However, I will...
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    Genesis says God commanded Noah to build an ark and Noah obeyed. So with or without help, the Bible says that Noah DID WORK ON THE ARK. The Angel in 1 Enoch specifically stated that angels were already building the Ark when God warned Noah about the flood and would deliver Noah to the finished...
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    We already established that Jude did not quote from it. At best, Jude may have made a reference to it. All Jude did with certainty was to establish a prophecy to the biblical person “Enoch” that the book 1 Enoch may have misquoted. That is anything but a ringing endorsement for reading about...
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    THAT is the problem with the book called 1 Enoch … it is the story of what an Angel traveling with a man called Enoch says and does. That Angel claims that Noah did not build the ark, angels did. That Angel claims that women change into creatures. Just like the Book of Mormon, some people...
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    Thank you. I knew. I was trying to give the advocates of 1 Enoch the benefit if the doubt by allowing them an opportunity to present a translation and context of their choice to support their position. Then we could discuss EXEGESIS. The quote from 1 Enoch is quite damning for 1 Enoch.
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    I *think* (but am not very familiar with 1 Enoch) that the Angel in 1 Enoch states that angels built the Ark for Noah, so Noah did not “have help” … one place specifically has God commanding that NOAH do it and claims NOAH obeyed, and the other place just as clearly states that God had...
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    Irrelevant to the truth or false nature of 1 Enoch. What does 1 Enoch say and does it agree with what God revealed to Moses? (are you attempting to argue that Genesis is not Scripture?)
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    Exodus 33:7-11 [NKJV] 7 Moses took his tent and pitched it outside the camp, far from the camp, and called it the tabernacle of meeting. And it came to pass [that] everyone who sought the LORD went out to the tabernacle of meeting which [was] outside the camp. 8 So it was, whenever Moses went...
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    Sorry, I can’t discuss the part of the Book of 1 Enoch that you didn’t bother to quote. I presented EXACTLY what Moses wrote in the Book of Genesis and it clearly states that God commanded Noah to build the Ark and Noah did as God commanded. That means that whoever else helped, or did not help...
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    God hates certain people.

    Irrespective of what it may or may not IMPLY, Romans 9 presents God’s explanation of HIS REASONS: [Romans 9:10-13 NKJV] 10 And not only [this], but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, [even] by our father Isaac 11 (for [the children] not yet being born, nor having done any good or...
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    That is not the “Best Evidence” that just happens to be an evidence that involves no arguments about mythical creatures or interpretations. When did Enoch “die”? When was the Flood? How did an Angel come to talk to Enoch about Noah and the Flood? How was the book of Enoch preserved through the...
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    Excerpts from Enoch

    THE WORD OF GOD Genesis 6:13-22 [NKJV] 13 And God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth. 14 "Make yourself an ark of gopherwood; make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and...
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