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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    You would be more convincing if you paraphrased “them” correctly. ”They” said no such thing. THEY said that Maccabees was neither written by a prophet (which it was not) nor was it affirmed as scripture by a prophet (which, again, it was not). I said that discussions about prophecy create more...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    [begin sarcasm] I can tell by how all of these topics ABOUT prophecy build up and unite all of my Christian brothers and sisters. [end sarcasm]
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    I find that studying prophecy seldom builds up the Body of Christ … but very often tears it down.
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    I am saying that answering this question is tiptoeing along the third rail, one mid step and you can electrocute yourself. I do not “DECIDE” who or how GOD does ANYTHING … certainly not ”How God forgives sin.” I just do not like wild and unsupported speculations being thrown about with the...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    I actually agree. It IS an obscure verse in Maccabees and certainly not even the focal point of the paragraph in which it appears. One of my personal objections for those that advocate so strongly for Maccabees as inspired scripture is: “So where are the SIGNIFICANT verses in Maccabees...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    So you agree with Maccabees that my DEAD brother can still be saved? :unsure: (We were discussing the offerings in Deuteronomy because YOU brought them up. Which chapter and verse called for “one incarnate God” and specified “beaten by Gentiles and nailed to a tree” as the prescribed method...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    That is what I look for in my “God breathed” inspired scripture … lots of examples of things that only apply to the OT (having no NT application), are “thoughtful and pious” but don’t do anyone any good, and can be easily misunderstood as being the ”word of God” (thus leading believers into...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Not for the dead. I just want to pay a sin offering for those already dead like Maccabees teaches rather than have to face the fact that “it is appointed to man once to die and after this, judgement” like the REAL Bible teaches. So Alexander the Great is just a little quaint side benefit...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    So how much does it cost in 2021 US$ for me to buy my dead brother out of hell like Maccabees did for his dead soldiers? Modern historical accounts are NOT the reason that Maccabees was never accepted as “divinely inspired” by the Church.
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    Is the Bible telling me to buy Dogecoin?

    :ROFLMAO: We know there was at least ONE NUT present … they were creating the packaging. :cool:
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    Is the Bible telling me to buy Dogecoin?

    COMMON SENSE is so rare that it should be listed as a “superpower”.
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    Is the Bible telling me to buy Dogecoin?

    Yes. God is commanding YOU to sell everything you own, buy Dodgecoin, and then live in a cardboard box with other homeless people so YOU can tell THEM about how Jesus died so they can live forever. Probably. If smearing fish gall bladders on your eye balls seems like a good idea, then why not...
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    Pauline Christianity

    Good luck with that. I don’t. However, if you posted a specific example then we could have discussed it on the merits of what SCRIPTURE actually says rather than exchanging empty opinions. No. I think that one of the best theological minds trained in both Hebrew theology by Judaism’s top...
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    Pauline Christianity

    It is really hard to take arguments seriously founded on the premise that extra-Biblical works REALLY WERE written by Peter and prove that Paul was an antichrist, but the Biblical letters credited to Peter that acknowledge the writings of Paul as “scripture” WERE NOT written by Peter. In any...
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    Pauline Christianity

    2 Peter 3:15-16 [NLT] And remember, our Lord's patience gives people time to be saved. This is what our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom God gave him -- speaking of these things in all of his letters. Some of his comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant...
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    Apologetics vs Honor

    (y) Fair Dinkum.
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    Pauline Christianity

    No. Stating facts not in evidence. Assuming true, they were not essential. We probably lost Apostolic Shopping Lists as well.
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    Apologetics vs Honor

    Let me know if you want honest answers to these questions. I assume they were presented as rhetorical examples rather than actual inquiries.
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    Apologetics vs Honor

    Why is this “theology” (study of God) so centered on how I felt, feel or may one day feel? Where in Scripture is the hand-wringing angst of God over whether or not we approve? I probably make a TERRIBLE evangelist, because I tend not to try and empathize with wanting to make an “evil” God...
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    O.T. quotes in the N.T.

    Apparently, Jesus is more of an “equivalent thought” than “word for word” translator. ;)
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