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    What do we tell unsaved about biblical election?

    @BruceLeiter You kidding me right ? What does Election mean in the acronym Tulip ? This isnt the Gospel
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    @BruceLeiter Why not ? God gave him some truth. Have you ever quoted someone ? Dont lie please No Im not, but I read a lot Thats unbiblical, God determines each persons eternal destiny, by making them a vessel of mercy or a vessel of wrath He does everything for His own Glory, hows that...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    Your reasoning is too faulty, the elect had their death penalty abolished by Jesus Christ Rom 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 2 Tim 1:10 10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    The Vessels of Wrath are the ones God created and omitted their names from the Lambs Book of Life, hence Christ did not in the Everlasting Covenant of Grace never stood as their Surety Heb 7:22, and so never was under any obligation to die for them, and they would be appointed to wrath 1 Thess...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    The entrance of sin and death into the world Rom 5:12
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    No all men by nature are not objects of Gods wrath, only the vessels of wrath are, which are the non elect reprobate who have been appointed to wrath.
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    God has reprobated as well as chosen. Taken by itself, reprobation is the decree of God in which He has determined, as sovereignly as in election, that some individuals should not enter eternal glory, but are destined for destruction. Herman Hoeksema
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    What is reprobation: Reprobation is that eternal will, good pleasure, or purpose of God according to which He determined that some of His moral, rational creatures would be cast into hell forever on account of their sins; and that this fact would serve the cause of Christ and redound to God's...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    About the Vessels of Wrath Rom 9:22
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    Christs death was for the salvation of the persons God had chosen to salvation 2 Thess 2:13-14 13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, for that God chose you [m]from the beginning unto salvation in sanctification of the Spirit and [n]belief of the...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    God hides His Truth from the vessels of wrath, for they are permanently lost 2 Cor 4:3-4 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    @BruceLeiter False, not about the Gospel, and Christ and His Person and Work Friend, Im not going to be going back and forth about this matter, if you dont teach Sovereign Unconditional Election of Grace of a Particular People, and Christs Saving death of the same, you aren't preaching the...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    You are equating human learning naturally with spiritual learning. In order for one to spiritually learn they must first be made spiritually alive by the Spirit, by which they have a new spiritual capacity to learn spiritual truth 1 Cor 2:12-14 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    Another scripture that confirms that some people God created for the day of His Eternal Wrath against their sins is here Prov 16:4 4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. The word for made here is used for maker as in Creator Job 36:3 I will...
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    What do we tell unsaved about biblical election?

    @BruceLeiter No it isnt if they acknowledge that it was due to Gods election of grace and Christs particular atonement. If not then you leave room for boasting and works. See you cant say it was by His Grace and omit election, they are inseparable Rom 11:5 5 Even so then at this present time...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    I dont believe that's talking about they were bought with the blood of Christ, but a national corporate buying of the OT jewish nation Deut 32 5-6 5 They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation. 6 Do ye thus requite the...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    Christs coming into the world, in addition to His primary redemptive purpose for His People Chosen in Him before the foundation of the world, and to open their eyes spiritually so they may see Isa 42:6-7 6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    The Vessels of Wrath, them which Christ did not die for, and had always destined to wrath, are the goats on His left hand seen here Matt 25:41 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand[goats], Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels...
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