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    What do we tell unsaved about biblical election?

    You entitled to your opinion
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    What do we tell unsaved about biblical election?

    I dont see how you come up with such conclusions, I just told you the Gospel should be preached to everyone God gives an opportunity to preach it to,in fact Im preaching it to you now, and I have been preaching it in my posts since day one. What's so difficult about that ? You either believe...
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    What do we tell unsaved about biblical election?

    Also in the passage you cited faith/believing is stated not to be of ourselves but is the Gift of God, its by Grace, that should be made clear in he Gospel of Grace ! See then there is no ground to boast, but praise grace !
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    What do we tell unsaved about biblical election?

    @Frankj How in carnation did you come up with that question ? Of course the Gospel should be preached ,just tell the Truth about it. Who Jesus Christ is, what He has accomplished, and for who specifically did He accomplish it and why
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    What do we tell unsaved about biblical election?

    It is an action, and if a person believes they are saved by that action, by default they are taking credit for their salvation, even if they say God enabled them to do it. And they are boasting by default. The only way to avoid this is admitting election, that its by Gods choice ,it made the...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    It was also known and had been prophesied that some were appointed to disobedience again 1 Pet 2:8 8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. Now Luke 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    Some men were born for destruction 2 Pet 2:12 12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; Peter here writing about false teachers, states unequivocally that they were...
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    Universal Atonement - Part 2

    Christs Death paid for the sins of Gods elect and He gives them eternal life Rom 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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    Universal Atonement - Part 2

    No Christ didnt die for everyone, thats a false claim, He died for His Sheep and they shall believe because they have eternal life through His death.
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    Universal Atonement - Part 2

    In that case Christ didnt die for you, they believe not because they were not His Sheep He lay His life down for Jn 10:26 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. Faith to believe in Christ is given only to the Sheep He died for
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    What do we tell unsaved about biblical election?

    Believing is a active verb, a work
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    Universal Atonement - Part 2

    No its not, not initially. The elect had it prospectively b4 they believed, and was why they believed Acts 13:48 48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. What came first, them having been...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    Some have been ordained to condemnation from of old Jude 1:4,13 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 13...
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    Universal Atonement - Part 2

    Objective Salvation is Salvation, and sin has been taken away objectively, so the world of Jn 1:29 is saved, cant be everyone without exception. You dont need Faith to be objectively saved, for your sin to be taken away.
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    @BruceLeiter Nothing changes
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    Some have been appointed to disobedience 1 Pet 2:8 8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. Disobedience to the Gospel of Christ. Peter writes of them who obey not the Gospel 1 Pet 4:17...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    It may suggest that to you, I dont know since Im not and others arent you. Howevr scripture states than man naturally doesnt desire, seek, crave the True God Rom 3:11 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    @Frankj That is correct, and that for Gods own good pleasure
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    Those who were appointed to wrath were never objects of Gods Love, but conversely objects of His Hatred Rom 9:13 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. Ps 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. I believe this hatred for the...
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    Christ died for them not appointed to Wrath.

    1 Thess 5:9-10 . 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. I believe this means that the ones appointed to wrath, Christ didnt die for them. Who are they...
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