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    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    So, your contention is that Jesus isn't the Son of God? (I did not go to any lengths to prove that). I would point you to the following. 1Jo 4:15, Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. 1Jo 5:5, Who is he that overcometh the world, but he...
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    The gospel of Jesus Christ...

    Eph 5:14, Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. Here, it becomes clear that those who are dead in their trespasses and sins are, in effect, sleeping. When God draws a believer to Christ (John 6:44), it is like He sets off an...
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    1 John 1:8 and the doctrine of entire sanctification.

    1Th 5:23, And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1Th 5:24, Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. Heb 10:14, For by one offering he hath perfected for ever...
  4. J

    The gospel of Jesus Christ...

    No; it does not. If it does then you are certainly capable of showing how it contradicts my point. I won't be holding my breath.
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    The gospel of Jesus Christ...

    Nice evasion... but it won't help you on the day of judgment. Act 4:10, Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. Act 4:11...
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    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    Now my contention is that Jesus Himself was created and that He was begotten in the incarnation. That the Person of the Son is the Son in that He is come in the flesh. Prior to the incarnation, He was not "eternally begotten"... But I would put it to you that the Father is an eternal...
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    1 John 1:8 and the doctrine of entire sanctification.

    1Jo 1:8, If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Notice it does not say, "If we say that we do no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us". If that were the case, it would be in contradiction to 1 John 3:4-9. But it (interpretation #1) is...
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    The gospel of Jesus Christ...

    So, all you would have to do at this point is recognize the singular NAME that you were baptized in according to that formula. Mat 28:19, Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name (singular) of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: If you compare Matthew...
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    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    I would simply reference to you 1 John 4:1-3 (kjv), 2 John 1:7 (kjv); because I am uncertain as to what you are trying to say but if you are saying something in particular (which appears to be what you are saying), then these passages address your belief.
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    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    I think I want @Lees to answer the question, thank you.
  11. J

    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    Of course it is sound doctrine that Jesus was begotten in the incarnation (Luke 1:35).
  12. J

    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    My doctrine has Jesus and the Father as two (distinct) Persons within the Godhead. But when you have the Son of God as being separate from the Father and also being God, (i.e. the Father IS NOT the Son IS NOT the Holy Ghost; as one diagram presents it) that is two Gods. Yes, the Father is...
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    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    Jesus was begotten in the incarnation (Luke 1:35). And yes, when Jesus spoke John 3:16, He had not yet died and risen; and after He would die and rise from the dead, there would be other sons. Thus it is written, Heb 1:6, And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he...
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    I do believe in the Trinity.

    More on this here: https://christianityhaven.com/threads/oneness-coexistent-modalism-as-the-true-trinity.14690/
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    I do believe in the Trinity.

    I believe in three distinct Persons within the Godhead. But I dissent with the Nicene creed in that I believe that the Bible teaches that Jesus was "made of the seed of David according to the flesh" (Romans 1:3); while the Nicene creed states that He is "uncreated".
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    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    Do you believe that the Man Christ Jesus was not the Son, or one with the Son, until after the resurrection?
  17. J

    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    That is two Gods. However, if He was begotten in the incarnation (i.e. He is the same Spirit as the Father, albeit come in flesh), then Jesus and the Father are the same God; and therefore we are preaching one God (James 2:19). Even though Jesus exists side-by-side with the Father in eternity...
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    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    God very simply said that He gave His only begotten Son. I find you to be very ridiculous for asking that question.
  19. J

    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    So, you are saying that the Man Christ Jesus was not the Son of God until after the resurrection?
  20. J

    Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

    No; for Jesus is the Son in that He is come in human flesh. Therefore your statements are redundant.
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