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No income? That's what a lot in Holland think too. Paul was so nice to not ask but the rest got money if they worked full time. My ex first got 700, later nothing. I had a job 4 days a week so it was no problem. Then I got pregnant 3 times in a row and it gets irritating if the church members...

The worst one in Holland: 180.000 wow didn't know that. Reformed: 60.000 as a max, but this is all without taxes, 30 percent or something goes off it baptist: 30.000 max catholic: 15.000 max a year evangelicals isn't even in the list...

There's a few that are influenced by those preachers. But you cannot ever earn that much here, 60 percent or more goes to taxes. Most evangelical churches are small. My ex had a small church and he got 700 euro a month before the 2008 crisis. We went to a pastors conference here. They all envied...

Lol I think he makes some money too on it. People talked to him about it on Facebook. Would not be tolerated in Holland lolz.

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I take my words back about Michael Brown. He does speak up against it. http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/48743-why-creflo-won-t-be-getting-my-dollars?showall&start

Yes that's great. You can do that if the church is big and has some rich people who tithe.

You can't give what you don't have. She had pennies, not minus a few thousand at the bank. People in our church who had a lot of debt and were on a fixed income to pay it all back were not even allowed to give money by the people who helped them get rid of debts, so they weren't asked to make...

There was a guy on cf who got a job for an organization to help the poor in Africa. He got 250000 a year for it plus an extra house in Belgium. LOL I wouldn't give a cent to that organization.

Even Hagin warned against this kind of abuse. http://www1.cbn.com/questions/wrong-motive-giving

Yes preaching tithing is good and it is not to be asked from someone who can even make more debts for it and they are to be used for the poor in the church, so then those could pay tithes also, but now it goes to the insane wealthy preachers. Apparently the principle of receiving thousands back...

Lol Jesus absolutely loved the health and wealth preaching, buy my book how to get rich for only 20 dollar! Jesus bringing unity in the temple: https://youtu.be/boNIL1owRAI

Yes I believe it partly, sawing and reaping works, God cares for you, but Paul also had times he had nothing and Jesus didn't live in a palace. Two extremes, be poor as a munk, preachers get nothing and may go to a food bank or this craziness of living in a castle and have a private jet. Yet the...

Book from Creflo: you're supposed to be wealthy. God said to my ex, cause we used to be a huge fan of all those American health and wealth preachers: if they ask for and have so much money, beware of what they teach. If they get that insane rich from the gospel I don't even listen to 'em...

Dollar I heard him once, crazy, money, money, money, advice for single women: take a guy with money lol. Don't really know about Cerullo, it was also some money scandal, for the rest I thought his teachings were good and Johnson had that glitter come from the roof which was a glory cloud. One...

Yes I agree with him, but I think he takes it too far, he hangs around with everyone and doesn't say anything about it. You can't be friends with Creflo Dollar and not warn the guy. I saw people on internet who had a dream about Morris Cerullo and they said: let's pray for him. In that dream he...

Oh already 20 people responded and one guy from a church in my city is gonna talk to her in private. It'll be okay.

I'm on Facebook. New girl in the group. Hello sweet people. I am looking for God. Does anyone know how I can get close to Him? Have you prayed the sinner's prayer yet? someone asks. No a sinner cannot do that she says. Aaaargh. That's why I hate that teaching. It keeps people from God.

That's why he added: of course this also counts for me.