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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    I have already done so in this thread, but you reject it because it doesn't have the exact phrase you demand. Go back to your sola lutherana, Josiah. It's clear you don't have a biblical case to stand on.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Quit being lazy and attacking me. Explain the text and show how the context teaches your position. If you cannot, then your claim is as illegitimate as Josiah's.
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    You absolutely need to explain the text. But, you won't because you know you are quoting in a misleading way that is no different than what a Muslim, a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness does with the Bible. Congratulations in being in that company, Josiah. Now, either explain the text or accept I...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    I just went through your first two citations and proved your assertion incorrect. At this point, you have stopped being rational and have submerged into your copy and paste denial. Run along to your sola lutherana world.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Let's look at Hebrews: Hebrews 1:1-14 Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Let's look at 1 John. 1 John 1:1-10 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands, concerning the word of life— the life was made manifest, and we have seen it, and testify to it and proclaim to you...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Go through your pet verses and provide contextual teaching on those passages. You won't do so because you know the context proves you wrong. Instead, you will just cut and paste your sola lutherana message and claim the context of scripture was made up 500 years ago.o
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    You have shared one verse from here and another verse from there. Jehovah's Witness, Mormons and Muslims do that. Have you looked into the context of all those verses you shared? I have. None of your verses are claiming that Jesus ransomed the entire world when he died on the cross. In fact...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    No "ah but". That's your excuse for ignoring all that I shared. Notice, you have completely ignored Romans 9. I have attempted to do nothing but share scripture. Both you and Josiah have done nothing but attempt to label me so you can justify ignoring scripture that answers the topic of this...
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    Adam predestined humanity to hell when he rebelled against God's command and brought the curse upon himself and all his offspring. God, the holy one, is under no obligation to redeem even one rebel. If God chose to be gracious to even one, it would be amazing grace. But God has chosen many from...
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    Irrelevant to the topic. What does God's word tell us. Both you and Josiah are desperately changing the topic and running away from God's written word. What does God tell us? Read all of it.
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    I accept what God tells me. Ephesians 1:3-23 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him...
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    I accept all of God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. If you believe the Son, you will accept what he tells you in John 6, 10 and 17.
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    Josiah, the invention is your doctrine coming straight from sola lutherana.
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    Lazy, look at all of 2 Peter and the ending of chapter 2, then the beginning of chapter 3. If you actually attempt to see the context and what Peter is actually writing about, you will see how poorly you grasp verse 9. Will you actually do that. Second, do you just close your eyes and throw out...
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    You agree, yet you deny it all by being a universalist. Or you call Jesus weak because his blood was wasted on the ground and human rebellion prevailed over his atonement for them. Josiah, you have a gaping hole in your theology and you don't care. Here's what your solution is: Observe the...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    I am a Biblical Christian who rightly divides the Word of God. I care about context and the whole of scripture. I don't misuse verses to create a doctrine from a sentence. Specifically, I am a Particular Baptist.
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    Then all are redeemed, saved and eternally found in Christ. His atonement effectually paid for everyone. Unless. Unless the context of scripture is that the writer is addressing the believers and he is saying that Jesus died for all who believe. All ya all that I'm writing to in this...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Jesus died for all those the Father has given him. Those whom the Father has given were chosen before the foundation of the world. These truths are firmly taught by Jesus and the Apostles according to God's inspiration.
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    Josiah, your assertion about faith and my position is utterly wrong. Also, your assertion that if Jesus did not die for a person's sins, that makes them perfect, is entirely backward to what the Bible teaches. Josiah, a person cannot have faith, unless God graciously gives that person the gift...
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