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I see this as your refusal. Noted.

We can do this all day. Until you choose to look at the context around every sentence you are quoting, you will be falsely applying God's word out of context. What you are doing is a dangerous thing that ultimately results in false teaching. So, please provide the context of each of your...

When you declare that a Christian can be forsaken by God, you are looking for scripture that gives humans power to override God. Josiah has grabbed sentences from different areas to say that very thing and he has ignored the context surrounding those verses, which actually prove his assertion wrong.

Do you? I don't see you flesh out a Bible passage to show its meaning within context. Perhaps you can show us an example.

Josiah, I don't deny what the Bible says. I tell you that you are misinterpreting what the Bible says by cherry picking sentences from the Bible without caring about the context. I tell you that every passage that surrounds your verses proves your interpretation to be wrong. Jesus finds all his...

Can you fashion an argument without taking verses out of context?

And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. ~ John 6:39 Perhaps you struggle with what it says. Does it say "everyone" like you falsely state? No, it doesn't. It says Jesus does not lose any the Father has...

I believe what Jesus says. "I will never leave you nor forsake you." Now, if that is true, and I believe it is, then no matter how far astray his sheep wander, Jesus will find them and bring them home. Do you believe that, or do you still think a person can outrun the hand of God? God says...

Either God saves us and keeps us (John 10) or God saves us, but we humans can squirm out of God's saving grace and unsave ourselves, which makes God impotent to save us. Which one is it?

So... it's holy guacamole...

Agreed. Guac goes directly into the trash bin. [emoji2961]

Had he repented or not? Just saying "thy will be done" does not necessarily indicate repentance.

This is hard to answer. It shows a sign of surrender, but it may or may not be a sign of repentance.

There is nothing we can do to earn God's grace. Therefore, you call God a liar when he says he chooses, elects and predestined. Instead, you demand that God save you by your works, despite the fact that all your works fall pitifully short and you die in your sins. That is the revelation of God...

Listening to a Lutheran Pastor is like listening to a Stuart Smalley "Daily Affirmation." [emoji16]

Who is "we?" Perhaps this thread needs to go to the denominations forum.

Two counter-productive theologies are: 1) that infant baptism saves. 2) that partaking in communion saves.

Nope. You interpret my post that way. I'm saying your theological interpretation that the bread becomes human flesh and the wine becomes human blood is incorrect and thus your assumptions are incorrect.