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Blind faith helps nobody, least of all the person showing blind faith in something. We can hope for something but still test the promise we will receive it, no? Faith certainly is related to things hoped for, things believed that can't necessarily be proven, but it has to be balanced or we end...

Even if you could conclusively demonstrate that not a single person living today speaks in tongues that doesn't mean the gift has ceased. If you want to take something made clear in Scripture and claim it no longer applies you really need a Scriptural argument for the cessation rather than...

Sorry, you're not going to get away with simply restating the same thing without answering the question of how you get to that conclusion. If you can't answer the question just say so. So he was anointed before his life ended, so he could have sinned while anointed? Not at all, he was God...

So how do you know whether the spirit within you is God speaking or your own desires speaking? When the spirit within you says one thing and the spirit within others says the exact opposite, how do you know who is right? If only there were an objective standard we could fall back on, so we...

This is all well and good but how does it relate to how we are to test what we are being taught? We need to see if it aligns with Scripture. Very much a physical, rational process in so many ways. "witness with your spirit" is a meaningless test. What happens when something presented as a...

You did say it was the ultimate judge - your precise words were "it will be the spirit within you that is the ultimate judge of what is true". If by "the ultimate judge" you didn't mean "the final judge", what does "the ultimate judge" mean? The "two or three witnesses" issue doesn't work in...

So if he didn't operate as God how did he forgive sins? Did he have a "God hat" that he'd put on and take off, so he could put on his magic hat to forgive sins, then take it off again to heal, then put it back on to confound the Pharisees, then take it back off again to hang out with the...

I was the member who talked of the person speaking Hebrew, although what I said was that some years later I recognised one of the sound formations as sounding very much like Hebrew. I don't see any reason why tongues shouldn't be for today, and since in 1Co 13:1 Paul talks of "speaking in the...

So what Scriptural support are you wanting? Maybe we're both saying the same thing, namely that tongues are for today but that a genuine gift of tongues looks very different to what the silly fringes of the Charismatic/Pentecostal movements have made it out to be?

That's not the same argument as claiming that tongues have ceased. Since some people pretend to have a faith in order to abuse the trust of churches, would you claim that Jesus no longer saves today?

What support are you expecting? Paul was very clear in 1Co 12 that the Spirit gives different gifts, including "different kinds of tongues". I won't dispute that gifts are misused and outright faked but that isn't an argument that they have ceased, merely that people try to present themselves...

I'm not sure where you get that from. Paul refers to "different kinds of tongues", where do you get the "poetry with two meanings that are the same" line?

So would you argue that it is within the core theology to demote Jesus to "a Christ, a son of the living God" because we can have the same "Christ anointing" that Jesus had and claim that Jesus performed miracles as "a man in right relationship with God" but "not as God"? Or would you say that...

The Holy Spirit will always testify of God, I won't argue with that. My point is that we can't say that the spirit within will be the ultimate judge because the spirit within clearly gets it wrong. The spirit within might give an early indication that something is probably good or probably bad...

Basically any country that is perceived (rightly or wrongly) to be generous to immigrants will have people trying all sorts of measures to get there. Of course the fact that English is the de facto global language means that just about everywhere people will learn English and so it's not...

The trouble is you can't have it both ways. You previously said: So which is it? If it is "the spirit within" that is the ultimate judge then in a situation like the one I described (which is a real example I personally encountered, not just something hypothetical) you can't say that it's...

In your previous post you wrote: We all have differences of opinion, but when someone appears to demote Jesus from "the Christ, the Son of the living God" to "a Christ, a son of the living God" I have to ask whether the gospel they bring is sufficiently different from the core gospel that they...

... except even if you can identify the language being spoken it's hard to know if someone speaks the language natively or not.

This is great in theory but for two problems. Firstly I haven't seen this particular friend in some time - he moved away from the area and we mostly lost contact. Secondly when I'm in a prayer meeting I don't tend to sit with a voice recorder on standby ready to catch anything that happens...

I'm not concerned about snake handling. If someone brings a gospel preaching a different Christ I would have to consider whether they truly are a brother in Christ or not. I'm not interested in divisions over petty issues but if Jesus is to be our foundation we can't have people presenting a...