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    Healing in the atonement?

    I don't think anyone has disputed that, the issue is whether God will always heal or not. Do you believe God's will is always to heal without exception?
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    Poor Theology - appeals to fear

    "God is doing a new thing, get on board or miss out" "The Word tells us that life & death are in the power of the tongue and by our words we will be judged" "I'm bearing witness of the anointing to you. It is pointless if you can't receive that because you haven't received the baptism of the...
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    Poor Theology - follow the wide, easy path

    "Look at how big that church is" "Look how many people go to that church" "That church just keeps growing" So they must be doing something right, right? Well, not necessarily. The early church showed a growth rate that any modern day church would love to see. But does that mean that any...
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    USA Donald Trump on illegal immigrants

    But it still comes back to the government enacting legislation and then people and corporations being criticised for taking advantage of the provisions of that legislation. If the law says you are free to enter my property and take anything you like, I can hardly blame you for taking advantage...
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    Healing in the atonement?

    I'm not saying healing isn't for today. I thought that was pretty clear in my opening post. My point is that healing isn't guaranteed in this world. Some people like the argument that essentially goes "there is no sickness in heaven, therefore sickness has no place on earth". Which is a...
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    Healing in the atonement?

    Jesus healed people who met him, but he is only recorded healing one man at the Sheep Gate Pool in John 5. I don't see how the idea that God doesn't heal today can be pulled out of Scripture without torturing the context but to claim that it is always God's will to heal seems to fly in the face...
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    No kill animal shelters?

    In theory it would be good if all shelters had a no-kill policy. In practise it just creates another problem further down the line. A shelter can only take so many animals before it runs out of space to house them, or runs out of money to feed them and pay vet bills. If a shelter has a...
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    Healing in the atonement?

    I've come across a few people recently who believe that healing is in the atonement. In other words they believe that healing is an automatic right, citing Is 53:5 ("by his stripes we are healed") and occasionally Ps 103:2-3 ("Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget not all His benefits: Who...
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    USA Donald Trump on illegal immigrants

    However powerful the corporate lobby is, if those who supposedly represent the people pass a rule they can't pass the buck when it comes to the consequences of that rule.
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    USA Donald Trump on illegal immigrants

    Doesn't that imply that the US government is as guilty as the Mexican government, if a free trade agreement made it easier for foreign workers to settle and work? You can't blame the people for taking advantage of an opportunity to earn more money by working somewhere else.
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    USA Donald Trump on illegal immigrants

    Maybe they do, but to imply that the government is merely dumping its unwanted citizens on another country ignores many other reasons why people would try and live somewhere else, legally or otherwise. Personally I've never felt the need to flee my home land with nothing aside from the clothes...
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    USA Donald Trump on illegal immigrants

    Sure, and how many Hispanics come through official channels and have all the right documentation? In the US I don't doubt for a minute that you have a lot of illegal immigration, simply because it's relatively easy to get from Mexico into states like Texas and disperse from there. In Western...
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    What kind of Workout do you do?

    With respect, if you had to swerve like that were you driving too fast for the prevailing conditions? What if there had been something coming the other way?
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    Prayer and free will

    The question you actually asked was "What are you asking Him to do that He's not already doing?", but no matter. What am I hoping God does when I pray for an unsaved person? Usually that God will reveal himself in a way that is relevant to that person. So much of the testimony I've heard and...
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    What kind of Workout do you do?

    Serious question, is it really not safe or is that a perception? The reason I ask is that there's a lot of talk in Europe about segregated cycle paths being the best way forward because they will apparently encourage people to cycle who currently don't cycle because "it's too dangerous". But a...
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    Prayer and free will

    Hard to know, when a prayer is answered I'm usually not able to maintain a scientific control to find out how things would have panned out had I not prayed the way I did. It would be handy to be able to split myself into as many different universes as I needed, so I could pray in one version...
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    USA Donald Trump on illegal immigrants

    So something of an assumption that an inert lump of rock slightly south of another inert lump of rock is somehow sending undesirables? Of course part of the reason for having immigration rules is that you can decide whether someone wanting to come and live in your country is an undesirable or...
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    Pray For Our Nation (USA)

    Pardon my ignorance here, why is this a "pivotal time"? Am I missing something?
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    Prayer and free will

    For the same reason people throughout time have asked God to do stuff for them. It's not like it's a new thing, back in the early chapters of Genesis we see people pleading with God, negotiating with God etc.
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    USA Donald Trump on illegal immigrants

    OK, would it work any better to say they are lawbreakers? To be honest I think it's little more than semantic nitpicking (especially in this context) because a broad brush comment that assumes every single resident of a country is a criminal is a stupid thing to say. If Mr Trump truly did say...
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