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  1. FredVB

    Should people who rip books out of the Bible burn in Hell?

    I prefer to speak for myself. While the actual gospel of salvation is essential, the whole Bible is not that. People can be saved and do get saved without the Bible. But the Bible is important as basis. It is the gospel that Jesus is our savior and we need to have our trust in him for that.
  2. FredVB

    Should people who rip books out of the Bible burn in Hell?

    Ripping out the message of the gospel of Christ or a part of it, as any part of the gospel message is essential, would have one not be saved, and such a one would perish.
  3. FredVB

    Would you buy Hitler's art?

    Of course, it is about art, on its own. Hitler should still not be excused. There were some others about as evil, but he was not anything close to being average, his evil was not in check. He deliberately was killing off as many people he did not approve of as he could.
  4. FredVB

    Should people who rip books out of the Bible burn in Hell?

    I don't say that. If Christ is refused people suffer for their sins.
  5. FredVB

    Would you buy Hitler's art?

    There were atrocities in many societies, this one included. That is not enough to excuse a madman.
  6. FredVB

    Log in an eye

    I would love Christian fellowship. But I find a forum format is not a good design for that, unless personal messaging is used. There are threads of discussion focusing on topics, and as Christians do not at all agree on everything, different positions on those subjects get discussed, or debated...
  7. FredVB

    JOHN 7:1 JESUS HAD BROTHERS

    Oh look. I said Jesus may have driven a car. Now I have basis. There is nothing in the Bible showing he did not. There is then no basis to say he did not. I see the same reasoning.
  8. FredVB

    Would you buy Hitler's art?

    I wonder about this apologetic for Nazi Germany and especially dismissing that it was very evil, how it would slip into this forum site. How evil some other time or power was would be irrelevant to that. Nazi Germany was aggressive, that it was not known how other nations would respond is not...
  9. FredVB

    What are you listening to? - Part 2

    Bob Dylan – 1964. “Come senators, congressmen Please heed the call Don't stand in the doorway Don't block up the hall For he that gets hurt Will be he who has stalled The battle outside ragin' Will soon shake your windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin' “
  10. FredVB

    JOHN 7:1 JESUS HAD BROTHERS

    Is that what you want to hear? Yes, it is possible that Jesus would be the only child Mary ever conceived and bore, who is one condemning here? Is it credible? It is with traditions appealed to for holding to that as the actual case. There is nothing biblically for that position. Biblically...
  11. FredVB

    Are Christians obligated to keep the Sabbath?

    I don't know it all and claim it with certainty, it seems some are sheltered with those believing the same way and do not trust other believers they then find with some different beliefs would disagree peacefully and not be condemning. I do not know surely from what I read, but believers who are...
  12. FredVB

    Are Christians obligated to keep the Sabbath?

    Sabbath is meant for man to be off from work to give the time to draw near to God, in God's will. Believers are not going to be judged for not understanding that. But any who keep others working for them from rest all that day from that work will be accountable to Yahweh for that. I do not...
  13. FredVB

    JOHN 7:1 JESUS HAD BROTHERS

    "1" is irrelevant, find any language you know that context would not be used. "2" is irrelevant, because context would be used to not leave something that would be ambiguous that way. "3" Jesus would not have brothers from Joseph, God the heavenly Father is the father to Jesus. His brothers...
  14. FredVB

    Are Christians obligated to keep the Sabbath?

    We who are in Christ are not under judgment ever. That would not be a meaningful argument to use against Christian believers. For those who are not in Christ, they are subject to judgment anyway. And is there no obligation to not be ignoring the Sabbath, for them? It is among the ten...
  15. FredVB

    JOHN 7:1 JESUS HAD BROTHERS

    This is irrelevant to the point I actually make. From what I know about languages, words meaning variable things not consistent with one another are defined by context, except in very poor writing or writing meant to be vague or confusing. Brother is a word used in various ways but primarily of...
  16. FredVB

    Anglican origins, claims, theology.

    Catholicism and Anglicanism along with other related groups have heavy emphasis on their traditions. They are still far removed from what was important to believers among the followers of Jesus in the starting generations. What those early followers found of importance was life-changing. They...
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