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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Post number(s), please. You also claimed that you addressed my question about Rev 7:9. I asked you for that post number also. Crickets is what I got for an answer.
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Oh but I do believe Christ died for all... qualitatively. For example, he died for ALL his elect. All his sheep. For all whom the Father gave him. For the entire church. For all God's covenant people. For all of His friends.
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    UABs, here's another question for you. Since God never intended to save all men, without exception, explain how without that kind of intentionaltiy it makes any sense for God to send his Son to die for all those who he never intended to save? Moreover, how does it make any sense for God to...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Hey, UAB's how come you never tackled the two scriptures in my 886? What's taking you so long?
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    UABs: How do you reconcile all the various "many" passages with all the various passages that you interpret as "all" in the distributive sense?
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    UAB's who are the people in Rev 7:9? If saints, did Christ atone for their sins?
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    UABs....I'm still waiting on an answer to my question about the elect. Who are they? And how do they attain to that status?
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Know my entire position is Rev 7:9. Why do you persist in putting words into my mouth? I never said Christ died for some or few.
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Hey, you UAB's how come Jesus in John 17 limited his prayer to the elect and excluded the very world that you insist he died for? Any rationale, coherent explanations?
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    And by the way what is "L dogma"? Can any of you UABs explain your own terms or phrases?
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Yeah but Mat 20:28 also doesn't say that Jesus died for all. So....there's that. But is does say MANY. Score 1 for me and 0 for you.
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    There's NO biblical contradiction between Many and Few because Few isn't taught in the bible. The contradiction is but figment of your overwrought imagination. And because your knowledge of scripture is sadly, as limited as the atonement, you fail to take into account the deaths of all the...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Since there is no passage in scripture that teaches universal atonement for all, without exception, on this little green planet we should not be surprised to find quite a few passages that narrows down for us WHO the "many" (Isa 53:12; Mat 26:28; Mk 10:45; Lk 22:20; Heb 9:28) are for whom Christ...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    See how you misrepresent me. I definitely believe All means All -- just not only in the quantitative sense. And when have I questioned "exact numbers"? Can you quote me or are you fibbing about me again? Also, I don't care what you allege about predestinarians's beliefs. I know what MY...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    There is no verse for "only some few". Jesus indeed died for MANY -- all known by the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. When you find the verse that says Christ died for each and every person in the world, then quote it.
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    . What in the world is the L invention? Explain, please. But we do agree that Many doesn't = few. So, where do you come up with Few? You're the one who keeps insisting it must be an"unknown few" - when it is neither! Jesus knows all his elect. And that's the only thing that matters! And...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Glad you enjoyed my post. I actually post more for the benefit of like-minded lurkers or participants with the hopes of exposing them to different avenues of thought. Re whose seed Adam was would take us off-topic -- that would really be a rabbit trail, especially since the subject is not an...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Humor me. Elaborate on how faith would undermine the Doctrines of Grace, generally, or the Atonement more specifically. Also, what part of my 915 didn't you get?
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    I found many that limit the extent of his death. You need to pay attention. Many doesn't = each and every person. See my 948. I also provided several passages that speak to a PARTICULAR atonement, i.e. that Christ died for a particular people, such as his elect, his sheep, his friends, etc...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Again, read 1 John. Note very carefully how many time John uses the word "know" in that epistle. If anyone claims to be a Christian and his life is essentially and substantially aligned with what John wrote, then he can KNOW God has done a work in his life. But if not, and his life is...
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