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By the way, guys, just for the record -- so that some of you can quit misrepresenting my posts: I fully realize that every sinner is saved by grace through faith -- and even the faith is a gracious gift given to his elect. (See Eph 2:8-10; Phil 1:29). Also, I never said that anyone deserves...

Either you don't read too swell or you're deliberately misrepresenting what is said: This is precisely what I said in 876: I didn't add anything. It's an indisputable fact that "all" can OFTEN be understood in the qualitative sense. You just blindly assume that "all" is always used...

That's simple: Christ died for all those whom the Father placed IN his Son by divine fiat before the foundation of the world. The profound paradox here is that God indeed does love sinners -- sinners whom the Father predestined to be in Christ. (This truth QUALIFiES God's love!) Therefore, he...

Two things: You did not answer the question I posed about the personal pronouns "we" and "us". Secondly, you conveniently omit v. 19 which qualifies the "all" in the previous verse. Wanna try again? I'll give you a little leg's up on the first issue: To whom did Paul address his epistle?

What I'd like to know is where death is talked about Jn 3:16. What bible version do you use? Not at all. Give us an explicit text that says that God loves the ungodly, the wicked, the unrigteous, arrogant non-God fearers, etc. Conversely, I can give you plenty of scriptures that teach that...

So, what do you think Rom 5:8 is teaching, exactly? And who is the "us" and "we" in the verse? As far as Jn 3:16 goes, the onus is on you to prove that the "world" that Jesus didn't pray for in John 17 -- you know...the world his Father "so loved" -- is used in an unrestricted sense. You're...

You argue like a broken record -- always regurgitating your favorite "all" passages, then telling us what a text doesn't say, then erecting straw men arguments, such as "us isn't a contradiction to all", and then of course foregoing any attempt at all at actually exegeting any particular...

Well, why did you bring up "good" people or whatever? It seems you were only thinking of quality and not kind.

Wow! Talk about a straw man. Where have I ever said that "all" never means all in the quantitative sense? You must be getting desperate. Rom 3:23 most definitely means all in that sense. How do I know that? Because there are numerous other closely related passages that affirm that truth...

God saved Noah from the flood precisely because he was one of God's elect.

You should avail yourself of a dictionary and look up the world "qualitative". It can refer to quality or KIND.

The devil can quote scripture too. In fact, I bet he knows scripture better than most of us. The issue is not what you quote, it's your off-the-wall interpretations that contradict other scriptures. For example, when God instituted the Mosaic Covenant with Israel and established the...

Well, make YOUR case that "US" in the Isaiah 53 passage means "all" Go ahead. Make it! I can make my case. So make yours. Can you make a substantive argument? Also, you again MISREPRESENT my position by putting words into my mouth. Not a very ethical thing to do by the way, especially...

CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT means everything. How I determine how a word is used or even what the meaning is in a particular passage, I rely heavily on the three-fold context of scripture and usage examples. Trying to interpret a text apart from its context is a pretext! Here's are two...

Hermeneutics 101 I think you UABs (unlimited atonement believers) think I must be telling you some very strange thing when a few days a go, I essentially stated that a fundamentally important hermeneutical principle is to try to understand how the original audience of a prophet or an apostle...

Here's a little advice. You lose all credibility when you start misrepresenting an opponent's views. I never said that every time the word "all" is used that it's used in a limited sense. In fact, quite often I have said that is OFTEN used in that sense. The term "often" qualifies (limits)...

You don't care much about understanding in its three-fold context, do you? (By three-fold I mean the immediate, intermediate and remote contexts ( in other words, consider the entire bible!) You're very dismissive about understanding the personal pronoun "us" and who it refers to -- even though...

I didn't add anything. It's an indisputable fact that "all" can often be understood in the qualitative sense. You just blindly assume that "all" is always used quantitatively.

I have. How do these passages "suggest the opposite"? Pehraps you should consult a dictionary to find out what "many" and "all" mean. Also, your paragraph above is incoherent because you equivocated. You want it both ways! You admit that the two terms in question aren't identical, i.e...