Is He friend or King first?

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What is Jesus, is He friend or King first?
https://blogs.thegospelcoalition.or...g-line-between-the-orthodox-and-evangelicals/

Jesus as Friend
The liturgy of an Orthodox worship services stresses God’s transcendance, often to the point of making God seem distant and aloof. A renewal of the liturgy and an emphasis on the personal “relationship” aspect preached by evangelicals would help church members to a more biblical view of the God we worship.

Jesus as King
If the Orthodox can learn from the “immanence of God” shown in evangelical worship, surely we can learn to show the “transcendence of God” in worship. Too often, God is presented as a best friend, a life coach, a buddy to have in time of need. We need the picture of God in His majesty and holiness that an Eastern Orthodox service provides. We should be trying to strike a biblical, healthy balance between these two.
 

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Joseph's brothers came to Egypt and learned that Joseph was second in command, reconciled with him.... did they still respect his position and authority upon learning he was their brother?

I think the same applied with our elder, Brother Yeshua, who should be respected and loved by us.
 
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You're My friends if you do what I tell you. Guess that's King first.
 

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I think yes , after all they prospered in Egypt till they went into slavery, and that was directly because of Joseph
 

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I think yes , after all they prospered in Egypt till they went into slavery, and that was directly because of Joseph
And electing Obama was directly because of George Washington setting the slaves free.
 

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And electing Obama was directly because of George Washington setting the slaves free.

George Washington did not set the slaves free.
 

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I missed it too lol. Explain the joke please.
 

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It's not "either/or" - it's both/and.

God is the supreme LORD.... and He is my Abba.
 

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God is God first and always, friend and brother by his choice, king by nature.
 

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The Month of Elul.

The King is in the Field.
 

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Simeon.

sim'-e-on (shim`on; Sumeon; the Hebrew root is from shama`, "to hear"

'' HEAR, O LORD, THE VOICE OF SIMEON.''







And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

36 And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;

37 And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day.

38 And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.

39 And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth.




Asher is most blessed of sons: The abundance of the tribe of Asher was also expressed by Jacob in Genesis 49:20 (he shall yield royal dainties).

11. (26-29) Conclusion: Happy are you, O Israel!

“There is no one like the God of Yeshurun,
Who rides the heavens to help you,
And in His excellency on the clouds.
The eternal God is your refuge,
And underneath are the everlasting arms;
He will thrust out the enemy from before you,
And will say, ‘Destroy!’
Then Israel shall dwell in safety,
The fountain of Jacob alone,
In a land of grain and new wine;
His heavens shall also drop dew.
Happy are you, O Israel!
Who is like you, a people saved by the LORD,
The shield of your help
And the sword of your majesty!
Your enemies shall submit to you,
And you shall tread down their high places.”
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeshurun


Yeshurun



1And now, hearken, Jacob My servant, and Israel whom I have chosen. אוְעַתָּה שְׁמַע יַעֲקֹב עַבְדִּי וְיִשְׂרָאֵל בָּחַרְתִּי בוֹ:
2So said the Lord your Maker, and He Who formed you from the womb shall aid you. Fear not, My servant Jacob, and Jeshurun whom I have chosen. בכֹּה אָמַר יְהֹוָה עֹשֶׂךָ וְיֹצֶרְךָ מִבֶּטֶן יַעְזְרֶךָּ אַל תִּירָא עַבְדִּי יַעֲקֹב וִישֻׁרוּן בָּחַרְתִּי בוֹ:
3As I will pour water on the thirsty and running water on dry land, I will pour My spirit on your seed and My blessing on your offspring.

Yeshurun

} Deuteronomy 32:15 ;
} Deuteronomy 33:5
} Deuteronomy 33:26 ;

{+}Isaiah 44:2 ). ... je-shu'-run, jesh'-u-run (yeshurun, "upright one," Deuteronomy 32:15; 33:5,26; Isaiah 44:2):


Yeshua
The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.


Solomon
Three things are wondrous to me, and four I do not know.
 
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The Parables of the Treasure and Pearl

43Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear. 44The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and in his joy he went and sold all he had and bought that field. 45Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant in search of fine pearls.…
 

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Pinacled, I'm confused by your responses above. You don't seem to outright answer the OP of if He is friend or King first. Which is it?
 

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Pinacled, I'm confused by your responses above. You don't seem to outright answer the OP of if He is friend or King first. Which is it?
Your not confused at all. I did not outright answer the question of the op.
 

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