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Temple building is for the wrong purpose and those who are involved are not inspired. God will have his people, but we also know the prophecy of the 1/3. The time of the gentiles is over.

Acts 1:6-7; 1 Thessalonians 5:1

That's why I brought up the silk road as not being evangelized.

But if it is as you say then it still doesn't compute because Jerusalem was still under the sovereignty of a Gentile power until it came out from under the sovereignty of Gentile powers on June 7, 1967. According to Daniel the time af the gentiles ends when Christ comes to set up His stone kingdom (the one not hewn) iow the second coming of Christ.
The "fulness of time" was first fullfilled at Jesus' birth Galatians 4:4 while the "season" ending seems to be at the time of the desolation of the temple that has been back in Israeli hands Matthew 25:15
It's not what begins the season but it is the characteristic mark that identifies the culmination of philosophies and religions that proclaims that mankind is it's own god. The exalting and deifying of man is the crowning characteristic of the last season of the Gentiles being fulfilled. That's when the time of the gentile will have met it's zenith. And that's when Christ will come as an unhewn stone to set up His kingdom

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31 “Your Majesty looked, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. 32 The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, 33 its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. 34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

36 “This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king.
 

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Another find is a man who was calculating the Jubilees... 2017

https://twelvebooks.wordpress.com/2010/08/14/a-prophetic-count-of-jubilees-till-2017-from-creation/

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2010/kenr814.htm


From Creation to Exodus : 50 Jubilees (2500 years)

To understand the biblical chronology of this period it is necessary to consider the key issues relating to this period : see www.cogwriter.com/six_thousand_year_plan_6000.htm for the chronology dating creation at 3983 B.C.

From Exodus (1483 B.C.) to 2017 : 70 Jubilees (3500 years)

So, 50 Jubilees (Creation to Exodus) + 70 Jubilees (Exodus to 2017) = 120 JUBILEES.

120 Jubilee’s x 50 years = 6000 years

JEWISH JUBILEE DATES in Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel’s prophecy:

1517– Ottoman Turks take Jerusalem

1917 – Balfour Declaration and Israel is declared a Jewish Homeland

1967 – Jerusalem recaptured by Israel

2017– Start of the Messianic Kingdom

Don't get me wrong ... I don't doubt the calculations of the Jubilees
 

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I think it comes down to inheritances of the Israel nation and that of the individual Christians

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What will rise is Israel representing to the world Yeshua's kingdom on earth. It is hard to believe, but even as I post, believers are gaining huge grounds in Israel and the Jews are coming in droves accepting Yeshua as their savior. We are in the end days, and if you thought it was rapid, it is nothing compared to what will soon come to pass in the whirlwind.
I think you may have missed my point about the inheritances. Christian inheritance is in the New Jerusalem (which is above Galatians 4:26; Revelations 21:21) and the literal 144000 representative Jews are for the nations Matthew 25. There are neither Jew nor Gentile amongst the Christians. What I'm disagreeing with is that Israel as a Christian nation is going to fulfill any prophesy because that prophesy you are referring to here in this post has nothing to do with the prophesy of returning Jewish nation after 2000 yrs. Afaik the twain do not meet. I hope that made sense to you because it does to me.
 

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God's purpose is Ephesians 1:4 and Jesus is the head of that purpose Ephesians 1:22-23; Ephesians 4:15; and He is espoused 2 Corinthians 11:2 to be married Matthew 22:2; Revelation 19:7-9 to the new creation which is the house, the temple and the body belonging to the head which is Jesus Christ 1 Timothy 3:15; 1 Corinthians 3:16-17; 1 Corinthians 12:27 the mystery revealed Ephesians 3:5-11; 1 Peter 1:5;1 Peter 1:9; 1 Peter 1:22-24 The friends of the bridegroom's will be in attendence: Old testament saints (law keepers) Revelation 19:9 and the bloodwashed multitute Revelation 7:9-17 RRVSP required
 

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IMO, lots.... LOTS of eisegsis goes on.
 

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It's not the church that He's asking admittance to
Very true it is our hearts as it is a personal relationship He wants
 

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I think you may have missed my point about the inheritances. Christian inheritance is in the New Jerusalem (which is above Galatians 4:26; Revelations 21:21) and the literal 144000 representative Jews are for the nations Matthew 25. There are neither Jew nor Gentile amongst the Christians. What I'm disagreeing with is that Israel as a Christian nation is going to fulfill any prophesy because that prophesy you are referring to here in this post has nothing to do with the prophesy of returning Jewish nation after 2000 yrs. Afaik the twain do not meet. I hope that made sense to you because it does to me.

I am not into a split, but like the two twigs joining and becoming one with Him, I see the body of believers coming together in the final days, with all that separates them gone and they are united in Him. Yeshua said that His kingdom is not divided. I believe Him. I understand the proponents of "this is for the Jew" 'this is for the Christians" like they are two separate gospels stories. But the truth is neither is absolutely in tune with Yeshua. We must come together in order to be with Him in perfect harmony. So therefore all prophecies ultimately point to that time when there is one in Yeshua.... even if it is only a remnant.
 

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I am not into a split, but like the two twigs joining and becoming one with Him, I see the body of believers coming together in the final days, with all that separates them gone and they are united in Him. Yeshua said that His kingdom is not divided. I believe Him. I understand the proponents of "this is for the Jew" 'this is for the Christians" like they are two separate gospels stories. But the truth is neither is absolutely in tune with Yeshua. We must come together in order to be with Him in perfect harmony. So therefore all prophecies ultimately point to that time when there is one in Yeshua.... even if it is only a remnant.
I can see them coming together in eternity in the culmination of Revelations when the wife and the bride are joined together as one in the Father.
 

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I agree that theremnant will be in harmony but I would caution against accepting what may very well be the one world religion although the way it is going I think the difference willl be very clear
 

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I agree that the remnant will be in harmony but I would caution against accepting what may very well be the one world religion although the way it is going I think the difference will be very clear
And soon...
 

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I know of the great kahuna leading the pack to rebuild the temple and it has nothing to do with Christ. Nothing you are speaking of is going to happen within the age of gentiles nor in the church age. If you are refering to the Ezekian prophesies they are at the time of the Prince's rule.

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/24447/Default.aspx
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17147
http://beforeitsnews.com/christian-...discovery-youll-wish-youve-heard-2509232.html
 

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We all shall be individually judged. What is remarkable is that Israel will rise as the Nation of God's chosen people. They were the first and they are going to be the last. We see American falling away from being an Christian nation. It is the last strong hold, and from the moment prayer was removed, the ten commandments were taken down, and the Judeo-Christian standard were taken down, our nation is being thrown into a tailspin.

What will rise is Israel representing to the world Yeshua's kingdom on earth. It is hard to believe, but even as I post, believers are gaining huge grounds in Israel and the Jews are coming in droves accepting Yeshua as their savior. We are in the end days, and if you thought it was rapid, it is nothing compared to what will soon come to pass in the whirlwind.

I think we're talking past each other because there is no argument that the temple will be rebuilt.
 

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I think we're talking past each other because there is no argument that the temple will be rebuilt.

You mentioned the "great Kahauna" and I found "kahauna"
 

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You mentioned the "great Kahauna" and I found "kahauna"

you did lol altho I was speaking about a person active in Israel. ;) So here's where I think the actual records will take them for a true rebuilding:

Revelation 11 says that the outer court is left out. Ezekial says there will be a wall between the Holy and unholy. Evidence gathered may indicate that the court of the gentiles is where the Dome of the Rock sits now while the temple site is in the forested area behind the wailing wall.

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others say it's closer but still away from the Dome.

ellis-skolfields-teaching-outline-06-finding-the-temple-17-728.jpg


Rev21b21.jpg
 

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you did lol altho I was speaking about a person active in Israel. ;) So here's where I think the actual records will take them for a true rebuilding:

Revelation 11 says that the outer court is left out. Ezekial says there will be a wall between the Holy and unholy. Evidence gathered may indicate that the court of the gentiles is where the Dome of the Rock sits now while the temple site is in the forested area behind the wailing wall.

templmount.jpg


others say it's closer but still away from the Dome.

ellis-skolfields-teaching-outline-06-finding-the-temple-17-728.jpg


Rev21b21.jpg

Great finds.... I have heard that people find that the history of the Dome of the Tablets is not available, like who built it and why. I have also come to understand that many have a strange "feeling" about the Dome in a "Holy" manner probably leaning towards that is the reason it is suspect for where the Holy Ark is. Dome of the Tablets is also known as the Dome of the Spirits.
 
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Great finds.... I have heard that people find that the history of the Dome of the Tablets is not available, like who built it and why. I have also come to understand that many have a strange "feeling" about the Dome in a "Holy" manner probably leaning towards that is the reason it is suspect for where the Holy Ark is. Dome of the Tablets is also known as the Dome of the Spirits.
Ya kinda like not having any information available as to why April 1st is called April Fools day. Isn't that the day a passover lamb would be born? I've never looked it up. That's really interesting
 

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Wow some interesting things, thank you
 

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Ya kinda like not having any information available as to why April 1st is called April Fools day. Isn't that the day a passover lamb would be born? I've never looked it up. That's really interesting
To be a year old, that would be close, some years it would be too late.....as Passover can happen in March some years.
 
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