This Millennium thing

[MoreCoffee]

Seems that many evangelicals and pentecostals believe in some sort of millennium. Some appear to think it is coming soon. Maybe after a 7 year or 3.5 year time of troubles. Many also appear to believe that the faithful who are properly prepared will be taken out of this world some time before or during the 7 years.

Now, as far as I can see there's just one passage in the Apocalypse of saint John the Theologian that mentions a thousand years. It reads thus in the NIV (apparently the NIV is very popular in evangelical circles)

And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (Revelation 20:1-10)​

 

[psalms 91]

Yup that scripture is loaded, so much teachinmg and preaching there

 

[visionary]

It fits with the six thousand years of sin, and the sabbath rest from sin.
It fits with the Jubilee of Jubilees.

There is six times in which the millenium [a thousand years] can be found ...

Psalm 90:4 “a thousand years in Your sight are like yesterday when it is past, and like a watch in the night.”

For God, the passage of time is different from the way we experience it. But we understand this because in the world of worlds every world has its own orbit and time frame. They [NASA] were even curious about the difference it made in the twin astronaut that stayed at the space station for a year, vs the one who stayed home.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Satan bound

As pointed out in the OP, Yeshua returns, which makes the beginning of the millenium, the hope of the promise to return. Yeshua will put a stop to the instigator of sin. Rev 20:1 Then I [the apostle John] saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

Saints will rule

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them [the saints of God]. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

The rest of the dead [wicked ones not resurrected unto eternal life or millenium rest] The “first resurrection” will take place at the return of Yeshua, our Jewish Messiah (1 Thessalonians 4:14-17); a second resurrection will take place 1,000 years later.

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Which is better? The book of Revelation makes it clear. Those resurrected in the first resurrection, at the beginning of the Millennium, will no longer be subject to death.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Satan released

In verse 7 we read of the release of Satan the devil after the 1,000 years is complete and how he will have one last chance to go out and deceive the nations of this world before being cast into the lake of fire and brimstone (verse 10-11).

I am looking forward to the millenium.

 

[psalms 91]

It fits with the six thousand years of sin, and the sabbath rest from sin.
It fits with the Jubilee of Jubilees.

There is six times in which the millenium [a thousand years] can be found ...

Psalm 90:4 “a thousand years in Your sight are like yesterday when it is past, and like a watch in the night.”

For God, the passage of time is different from the way we experience it. But we understand this because in the world of worlds every world has its own orbit and time frame. They [NASA] were even curious about the difference it made in the twin astronaut that stayed at the space station for a year, vs the one who stayed home.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Satan bound

As pointed out in the OP, Yeshua returns, which makes the beginning of the millenium, the hope of the promise to return. Yeshua will put a stop to the instigator of sin. Rev 20:1 Then I [the apostle John] saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

Saints will rule

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them [the saints of God]. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

The rest of the dead [wicked ones not resurrected unto eternal life or millenium rest] The “first resurrection” will take place at the return of Yeshua, our Jewish Messiah (1 Thessalonians 4:14-17); a second resurrection will take place 1,000 years later.

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Which is better? The book of Revelation makes it clear. Those resurrected in the first resurrection, at the beginning of the Millennium, will no longer be subject to death.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Satan released

In verse 7 we read of the release of Satan the devil after the 1,000 years is complete and how he will have one last chance to go out and deceive the nations of this world before being cast into the lake of fire and brimstone (verse 10-11).

I am looking forward to the millenium.

Yes I am as well looking forward to it but not in the physical but in the spiritual where those will rule and reign with Christ as kings and priests

 

[visionary]

Yes I am as well looking forward to it but not in the physical but in the spiritual where those will rule and reign with Christ as kings and priests

What is resurrected if not the physical?

 

[psalms 91]

What is resurrected if not the physical?

There are those who will rule and reign with Christ in the spiritual with glorified bodies to help maintain Christs ordinances on the earth while those who are resurrected in the physical willinhabit the earth

 

[MoreCoffee]

Do you believe that the kingdom will be ruled by the Lord Jesus Christ and the martyrs for one thousand years and then their rule will end? I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

[visionary]

There are those who will rule and reign with Christ in the spiritual with glorified bodies to help maintain Christs ordinances on the earth while those who are resurrected in the physical will inhabit the earth

I find no separation of glorified bodies with physical in-habitation of earth.

 

[visionary]

Do you believe that the kingdom will be ruled by the Lord Jesus Christ and the martyrs for one thousand years and then their rule will end? I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

I see no end.

 

[psalms 91]

I find no separation of glorified bodies with physical in-habitation of earth.

Do you agree that some will rule and reign as priests and kings? Do you believe in a catching awya such as Christs resurrection and the marriage supper of the lamb? Do you also see that at the end iof the milenial there will be rebellion and war and that rebellion will also be present in the millenial?

 

[Rens]

It fits with the six thousand years of sin, and the sabbath rest from sin.
It fits with the Jubilee of Jubilees.

There is six times in which the millenium [a thousand years] can be found ...

Psalm 90:4 “a thousand years in Your sight are like yesterday when it is past, and like a watch in the night.”

For God, the passage of time is different from the way we experience it. But we understand this because in the world of worlds every world has its own orbit and time frame. They [NASA] were even curious about the difference it made in the twin astronaut that stayed at the space station for a year, vs the one who stayed home.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Satan bound

As pointed out in the OP, Yeshua returns, which makes the beginning of the millenium, the hope of the promise to return. Yeshua will put a stop to the instigator of sin. Rev 20:1 Then I [the apostle John] saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

Saints will rule

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them [the saints of God]. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

The rest of the dead [wicked ones not resurrected unto eternal life or millenium rest] The “first resurrection” will take place at the return of Yeshua, our Jewish Messiah (1 Thessalonians 4:14-17); a second resurrection will take place 1,000 years later.

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Which is better? The book of Revelation makes it clear. Those resurrected in the first resurrection, at the beginning of the Millennium, will no longer be subject to death.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Satan released

In verse 7 we read of the release of Satan the devil after the 1,000 years is complete and how he will have one last chance to go out and deceive the nations of this world before being cast into the lake of fire and brimstone (verse 10-11).

I am looking forward to the millenium.

Yes, 6000 years, then 1000 years sabbath. And on the sixth day the One New Man.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I see no end.

They reign for one thousand years. What happens after the thousand years?

 

[MoreCoffee]

There are those who will rule and reign with Christ in the spiritual with glorified bodies to help maintain Christs ordinances on the earth while those who are resurrected in the physical willinhabit the earth

Some say 144,000 will be glorified and the rest live on earth. Do you agree?

 

[psalms 91]

the figure no, if not mistaken isnt that Jehohahs Witness teaching? I believe the 144,000 will be Jewsih believers that spread the gospel and lose their lives doing it

 

[visionary]

Do you agree that some will rule and reign as priests and kings? Do you believe in a catching awya such as Christs resurrection and the marriage supper of the lamb? Do you also see that at the end iof the milenial there will be rebellion and war and that rebellion will also be present in the millenial?

Yes, some will rule as priests and kings.. along the same lines Moses had laid out of 1 for every 10 over every 100 over 1000 over 10,000 etc...
Catching away happens at the time of the resurrection.
Marriage supper of the Lamb is during the millenium.
At the end of the millenium, the second resurrection brings up the wicked, the rebellion, and the circling of God's camp for final judgment with fire cleansing.

 

[visionary]

They reign for one thousand years. What happens after the thousand years?

Eternity with Him... Judgment is no longer needed, so all sin no more.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Eternity with Him... Judgment is no longer needed, so all sin no more.

Is rule no longer needed? Will they cease to rule?

 

[visionary]

Is rule no longer needed? Will they cease to rule?

Probably be more organizational responsibilities...

 

[psalms 91]

Yes, some will rule as priests and kings.. along the same lines Moses had laid out of 1 for every 10 over every 100 over 1000 over 10,000 etc...
Catching away happens at the time of the resurrection.
Marriage supper of the Lamb is during the millenium.
At the end of the millenium, the second resurrection brings up the wicked, the rebellion, and the circling of God's camp for final judgment with fire cleansing.

Actually I believe the marriage supper of the Lamb is during Tribulation when those who will rule and reign as His bride will be taken out

 

[MoreCoffee]

Actually I believe the marriage supper of the Lamb is during Tribulation when those who will rule and reign as His bride will be taken out

Doesn't the new Jerusalem descend in Chapter 21 after the Judgement before the Throne of the one whose visage causes the heavens and the earth to flee in 20:10?

What do you make of 21:1 where the seas are "no more"?