It's all a pretence ... No one keeps the feasts of Jehovah today.

[psalms 91]

That teaching was done in the synagogues.

Yes you are right, sorry about that

 

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Yes you are right, sorry about that

Since nobody can offer the sacrifices that are commanded by Jehovah for the old covenant feasts it seems that nobody is keeping them according to the commandments. Rabbinic Jews don't keep them and they know it because when I asked a rabbi he said "we have an arrangement with God and don't need the sacrifices as long as we have no temple". Christians who keep the days don't keep the feasts according to the commandments because none of them offers the sacrifices that Jehovah commanded for each of the feasts and almost none of them goes to the temple in Jerusalem to keep the feasts. Muslims don't keep them. So why pretend to be keeping them when nobody can and nobody does?

 

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Since nobody can offer the sacrifices that are commanded by Jehovah for the old covenant feasts it seems that nobody is keeping them according to the commandments. Rabbinic Jews don't keep them and they know it because when I asked a rabbi he said "we have an arrangement with God and don't need the sacrifices as long as we have no temple". Christians who keep the days don't keep the feasts according to the commandments because none of them offers the sacrifices that Jehovah commanded for each of the feasts and almost none of them goes to the temple in Jerusalem to keep the feasts. Muslims don't keep them. So why pretend to be keeping them when nobody can and nobody does?

How can you miss the sacrifice of Yeshua... who is the real deal on the sacrificial system rehearsal?

 

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How can you miss the sacrifice of Yeshua... who is the real deal on the sacrificial system rehearsal?

If a person claims to be keeping the old covenant feats according to the old covenant commandments about keeping the feasts then they need to be using the temple, an Aaronic priest, and sacrificing animals according to the explicit instructions given by Jehovah. If they want to observe days and new moons and the feasts but ignore the commandments in the old covenant then they are not keeping the feasts. The new covenant holy scriptures advise Christian not to make a fuss about those feasts saying: "Therefore let no one pass judgement on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath. These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God." (Colossians 2:16-19)

 

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If a person claims to be keeping the old covenant feats according to the old covenant commandments about keeping the feasts then they need to be using the temple, an Aaronic priest, and sacrificing animals according to the explicit instructions given by Jehovah. If they want to observe days and new moons and the feasts but ignore the commandments in the old covenant then they are not keeping the feasts. The new covenant holy scriptures advise Christian not to make a fuss about those feasts saying: "Therefore let no one pass judgement on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath. These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God." (Colossians 2:16-19)

Then you are denying the work of Yeshua... When Yeshua came to enlightening the purpose of the commandments, keep them, and bring reality to their purpose. So let no one judge you on how you keep the Feasts of God, but keep them according to your relationship with God.... as an obedient child of God.

 

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Then you are denying the work of Yeshua... When Yeshua came to enlightening the purpose of the commandments, keep them, and bring reality to their purpose. So let no one judge you on how you keep the Feasts of God, but keep them according to your relationship with God.... as an obedient child of God.

When your posts says "So let no one judge you on how you keep the Feasts" it is according to holy scripture but when it says "but keep them according to your relationship with God.... as an obedient child of God" it is not according to the holy scriptures. What the holy scriptures say is: "Therefore let no one pass judgement on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath. These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God" (Colossians 2:16-19).

 

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Keep them according to your relationship with God as an obedient child of God is not according to Holy Scriptures? Really... How else do you have a relationship with God if not by obedience?

 

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Keep them according to your relationship with God as an obedient child of God is not according to Holy Scriptures? Really... How else do you have a relationship with God if not by obedience?

The faithful do as the holy scriptures say they are to do, namely, "Therefore let no one pass judgement on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath. These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God" (Colossians 2:16-19).

 

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The faithful do as the holy scriptures say they are to do, namely, "Therefore let no one pass judgement on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath. These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God" (Colossians 2:16-19).

You have to keep them first to qualify as one who is keeping the Feast, before you need to concern yourself with what others say about "how" you keep it.

 

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You have to keep them first to qualify as one who is keeping the Feast, before you need to concern yourself with what others say about "how" you keep it.

I do not need to keep any feasts from the old covenant. The holy scriptures say: "Who are you to pass judgement on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Master is able to make him stand. One man esteems one day as better than another, while another man esteems all days alike. Let every one be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it in honour of the Lord. He also who eats, eats in honour of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God; while he who abstains, abstains in honour of the Lord and gives thanks to God. None of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. If we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord; so then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. Why do you pass judgement on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgement seat of God; for it is written, "As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God." So each of us shall give account of himself to God. Then let us no more pass judgement on one another, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother." (Romans 14:4-13)

 

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I do not need to keep any feasts from the old covenant. The holy scriptures say: "Who are you to pass judgement on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Master is able to make him stand. One man esteems one day as better than another, while another man esteems all days alike. Let every one be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it in honour of the Lord. He also who eats, eats in honour of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God; while he who abstains, abstains in honour of the Lord and gives thanks to God. None of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. If we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord; so then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. Why do you pass judgement on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgement seat of God; for it is written, "As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God." So each of us shall give account of himself to God. Then let us no more pass judgement on one another, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother." (Romans 14:4-13)

Then I would say that you should shut this thread down and dont bring it up to discussion then noone would be talking about it with you

 

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Interesting perspective. Is that how you handle differences of perspective? Just ask it to go away and pretend that it will?

 

[psalms 91]

nope but it seems to be what you want or is it that you only want agreement?

 

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How can anybody keep the feasts commanded by Jehovah without keeping all of the commandments about how the feasts are to be kept?

 

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How can anybody keep the feasts commanded by Jehovah without keeping all of the commandments about how the feasts are to be kept?

Yeshua and Paul went to a lot of trouble explaining the halacha of how...

 

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Yeshua and Paul went to a lot of trouble explaining the halacha of how...

Where?

 

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Where?

The new testament is nothing but and all about the halacha.

 

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The new testament is nothing but and all about the halacha.

What's a halacha when it is in English?

Seems it is a Rabbinic Jewish concept...

What is Halakhah?

Two Tablets Judaism is not just a set of beliefs about G-d, man and the universe. Judaism is a comprehensive way of life, filled with rules and practices that affect every aspect of life: what you do when you wake up in the morning, what you can and cannot eat, what you can and cannot wear, how to groom yourself, how to conduct business, who you can marry, how to observe the holidays and Shabbat, and perhaps most important, how to treat G-d, other people, and animals. This set of rules and practices is known as halakhah.

The word "halakhah" is usually translated as "Jewish Law," although a more literal (and more appropriate) translation might be "the path that one walks." The word is derived from the Hebrew root Hei-Lamed-Kaf, meaning to go, to walk or to travel.

Some non-Jews and non-observant Jews criticize this legalistic aspect of traditional Judaism, saying that it reduces the religion to a set of rituals devoid of spirituality. While there are certainly some Jews who observe halakhah in this way, that is not the intention of halakhah, and it is not even the correct way to observe halakhah.

On the contrary, when properly observed, halakhah increases the spirituality in a person's life, because it turns the most trivial, mundane acts, such as eating and getting dressed, into acts of religious significance. When people write to me and ask how to increase their spirituality or the influence of their religion in their lives, the only answer I can think of is: observe more halakhah. Keep kosher or light Shabbat candles, pray after meals or once or twice a day. When you do these things, you are constantly reminded of your relationship with the Divine, and it becomes an integral part of your entire existence.

Are these laws sometimes inconvenient? Yes, of course. But if someone you care about -- your parent, your child, your spouse -- asked you to do something inconvenient or unpleasant, something you didn't feel like doing, you would do it, wouldn't you? It is a very shallow and meaningless kind of love if you aren't willing to do something inconvenient for the one you love. How much more so should we be willing to perform some occasionally inconvenient tasks that were set before us by our Creator, who assigned those tasks to us for our own good?

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What's a halacha when it is in English?

Seems it is a Rabbinic Jewish concept...

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Yes.. it is explaining the "how" .. which Paul and Yeshua did through out their teachings.

 

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How can anybody keep the feasts commanded by Jehovah without keeping all of the commandments about how the feasts are to be kept?

Well God kept it a bit different. Pascha, Pentecost: that was on some feast day. I don't care if people party on such days. Why would I spoil a party? Wouldn't surprise me if Jesus comes back on some feast day. It doesn't interest me though to keep it, but if someone has been Jewish (the religion) all his life and finds the Messiah I'm not gonna tell him he now has to eat pork and go to church on sunday and celebrate Easter a weekend sooner or later and hide eggs.
Who cares, if they don't bother me, I don't bother them.