Was the blood moon experience a disappointment?

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Why does anybody think that churches moved "back to God" after the 11th-Septermber-2001?
 

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Maybe because they were showing churchs that werer full, people praying, etc.
 

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Maybe because they were showing churchs that were full, people praying, etc.

Isn't that people who don't normally pray gathering to pray because they were afraid and because they were moved by the deaths of around 3,000 people of their own nation?
 

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Yes, it is called repentance which of course didnt last, to bad or this nation might be on a different course
 

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Yes, it is called repentance which of course didnt last, to bad or this nation might be on a different course

If it didn't last was it repentance? It may have been worldly sorrow motivated by sympathy for those who died and fear. But repentance is turning around from a life of indifference and hatred towards God to a life of love for God and obedience to him.
 

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Yup and in time of trouble people were turning but it didnt last. I try to view things not from a worlddly perspective but one that is more spiritual it is hard and I dont always suceed but I want to be able to view things more this way
 

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Yup and in time of trouble people were turning but it didnt last. I try to view things not from a worlddly perspective but one that is more spiritual it is hard and I dont always suceed but I want to be able to view things more this way

Do you think of the 11th September 2001 as like the blood moons? Or is it entirely different?
 

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I would say that it was a warning one that was mostly ignored. There is no chance in my mind and all the natural disasters we have suffered, our loss of place in the world cxommunity, our monetary problems they are all signs and symtoms that for the most part as a nation we ignore. Even our leaders thatw e agree are placed by God can be for good or bad. If God is judging this nation then the leaders will reflect that as well.
 

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Yup same old same old and it doesnt change the fact of what this nation was.

It's one thing to say the nation was founded on Christian principles (and the First Amendment suggests to me, although I make no claim to be an expert on the US Constitution) that the idea was to leave people free to worship God rather than requiring people to worship God. But to claim that the nation was founded by God is another claim entirely. That's not something I can accept without some evidence, and the claim that God founded the USA as a different kind of nation to any other would certainly require some concrete evidence. Feel free to provide a link if you're truly bored of discussing it.

In the 1800's or early 1900's this would have been unthinkable and it was indeed a christian nation whether people like it or not

When you say "Christian nation" I assume you mean that the majority of people within the nation would self-identify as Christian?

right after 9-11 people were praying and turning back to God but that did not last long so we proceed down the road of judgement.

Sure, in the same way many people will cry out for something in the face of disaster. How many people cry out to a God they never believed in when they need something and then figure that everything returned to normal, in this case apparently as the result of government intervention, and figure they don't need God any more?

It is disheartning to see christians who deny our dependance on God as a nation and oppose moving us back to a nation turning to God

It's terrifying to see Christians expecting their own moral code to be enshrined in law, especially when they don't seem to see the likely future implications of doing such a thing. What is the value of worship unless it is freely given? Worship is meaningless unless it is given despite the clear and freely available choice to not worship. Do you honestly think God would be impressed with a legal system that kept people clean on the outside but resulted in what Jesus referred to as whitewashed tombs?
 

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If it didn't last was it repentance? It may have been worldly sorrow motivated by sympathy for those who died and fear. But repentance is turning around from a life of indifference and hatred towards God to a life of love for God and obedience to him.

I think that's the key here. People get scared, they cry out for something bigger than themselves to Do Something, and then the fear goes away and they go back to Braindead TV and watching to see what the Kardashians are up to this week.
 

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I would say that it was a warning one that was mostly ignored. There is no chance in my mind and all the natural disasters we have suffered, our loss of place in the world cxommunity, our monetary problems they are all signs and symtoms that for the most part as a nation we ignore. Even our leaders thatw e agree are placed by God can be for good or bad. If God is judging this nation then the leaders will reflect that as well.

You still didn't explain why God should be judging the USA while apparently not judging nations like Norway and Sweden.
 

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Just as valid.

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no - thats just cynical bordering on mockery
 

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One thing is clear from this thread. There isn't a word in the holy scriptures to define a "blood moon" the way that folk in here do. Not one word about two or three lunar eclipses in a row one after the other and no more than a year apart with a solar eclipse in between somewhere as a definition. I presume solar eclipses to count ought to be total at Jerusalem. I don't think that happened any time recently. So this whole blood moon thing is not biblical despite the borrowed name.
 

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no - thats just cynical bordering on mockery

Given the near total lack of specifics to demonstrate why these blood moons are signs of anything, let alone anything specific, I'm not sure it is. There seems to be as much support for a full moon on 2/22 (or 22/2, depending on locale) meaning something as there is for the blood moons meaning something.
 

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Folk supporting blood moon theology appear to be very shy when it comes to fronting up with passages from holy scripture that teach about three consecutive lunar eclipses each occurring no more than one year after the last and having a solar eclipse occur during the period of the three lunar eclipses. I guess it's because no such passages exist in the holy scriptures. That leads to the question - why do the advocates of blood moon theology believe it or expect anybody else to believe it when it has no biblical basis of any kind?
 

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I imagine it was just as difficult to speak of the fulfillments of the spring feasts during Yeshua's time too.. After all, what proof is there?
 

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we are not mockers and scoffers...though thier presence is itself...a sign
 

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I imagine it was just as difficult to speak of the fulfillments of the spring feasts during Yeshua's time too.. After all, what proof is there?

Surely defining such feasts is not beyond the abilities of those who have something to say about them yet finding any passage in holy scripture that actually defines a "blood moon" in accordance with the definition in use in this thread appears to be well and truly beyond the abilities of those who have something to say about it.
 
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