Why was Mary necessary?

[Alithis]

as for the topic
why was mary necessary ? she wasnt .. "a virgin" however .. was . And a virgin betrothed to joseph

 

[George]

and i stand by it as long as the Holy Scripture is true - those teaching cannot be true .. chose this day whom you wil serve -i chose the lord JEsus .. not rome becaseu he said we cannot serve two masters . and it is prophesied that doctrines of devils would arise and the roman doctrines around mary which have ZERO bible foundation -canot possibly be from the Holy Spirit . and that only leaves one other spirit .

The mary of the bible and the mary of rome .. are NOT the same person -they are speaking of completely different beings -one true.. the other a demonic lie .
just as the jesus of the book of mormon and the jesus of the bible oare NOT the same person
just like the jesus of the jehovah witness cult and the JEsus of the bible are NOT the same person

Again, I can't see where that term says that Mary created Him. Mary is the Mother of the human side of Christ. -exactly

But as Christ is fully God as well, the term Mother of God asserts the two natures of Christ, emphasizing His Divine Nature.

Again , just because it is silent (which it is not in this case it expressly does NOT give her an such title) does not automatically validate some one adding it later .to even imply such a thing is to say mans word is infallible over Gods . wrong . i understand that your denomination counts the traditional word of church fathers as authoritative .. but i do not never did never wil .. God is the father ,JEsus the head of HIS church -he can never contradict his own word .

And the same can be said for all denominations.

Also the Gospel of James also covers regarding the life of the Virgin Mary. 0 not sure what you are referring to as its not in context with the part you were replying to

Hmm, I plugged that second quote before the Gospel of James too early. That part you quoted should have been with this:

Scripture does not mention Mary as the Mother of God, so you're correct on that. But let's also not forget that Scripture is silent on many other things. Hence why the Ecumenical Councils and Church Fathers came into play.

please don't use misdirections of topic i never said "mary " was a demonic lie- i said (meant )the doctrines about her taught specificaly by rome which are not in nor agreed to by the Bible .. are a demonic lie .

Again, there's no need to plaster a demonic label on the doctorines. You can say they're unscriptural or unbiblical, but it really goes too far with demonic. I'm going to leave it at that.

 

[Alithis]

But as Christ is fully God as well, the term Mother of God asserts the two natures of Christ, emphasizing His Divine Nature.



And the same can be said for all denominations.



Hmm, I plugged that second quote before the Gospel of James too early. That part you quoted should have been with this:





Again, there's no need to plaster a demonic label on the doctorines. You can say they're unscriptural or unbiblical, but it really goes too far with demonic. I'm going to leave it at that.

im going to leave it at demonic.. if its not of God then- its not of God ..simple as that . its of the spirit of antichrist, it promotes the elevation of created being to usurp praise and attention and direction away from the lord JEsus .. the Holy Spirit only glorifies the lord Jesus NONE other .

 

[Alithis]

As for the topic
why was mary necessary ? she mary , wasn't . BUt "a virgin" however .. was . And a virgin betrothed to joseph .

 

[MoreCoffee]

As for the topic ....

Is the Lord Jesus Christ truly God?

 

[Alithis]

Is the Lord Jesus Christ truly God?

already answered this in full .

 

[Alithis]

As for the topic
why was mary necessary ? she, mary , wasn't . BUt "a virgin" however .. was . And a virgin betrothed to joseph .

 

[MoreCoffee]

already answered this in full .

Try "yes" or "no" both are a lot shorter than the 5 word message with which you avoided answering.

 

[MoreCoffee]

why was mary necessary .. a virgin betrothed to joseph .

So now Joseph is necessary but Blessed and Holy Mary wasn't?

 

[visionary]

A virgin of Hebrew descent who truly believed and lived godly, was necessary, all the rest is of God.

 

[Alithis]

A virgin of Hebrew descent who truly believed and lived godly, was necessary, all the rest is of God.

yup and the one he chose was "betrothed to joseph " didn't really matter what her name was ,could have been jil or carol ..

 

[MoreCoffee]

yup and the one he chose was "betrothed to joseph " didn't really matter what her name was ,could have been jil or carol ..

Yet her name is Mary and she is called Blessed as the scriptures teach.

 

[Alithis]

Yet her name is Mary and she is called Blessed as the scriptures teach.

so it is . and why ? because she was betrothed to Joseph . who was of the tribe of judah of the line of david ..etc

its like a merry go round with you -the truth is right the plainly in front of you in the scriptures but you keep going round and round and round looking for something in the bible to match what rome wrongfully added ..but no matter how many times you go round.. you can't find it because it is not in the scriptures -you ant it to be there but it is not there .you don't desire the truth you wish to perpetuate a lie ? no one who loves truth remains perpetuating a lie .

there are no other attributes listed
the ONLY thing singling mary out was- that she was a virgin betrothed to Joseph . -thats what the bible states-that is the fulfillment of prophecy .

the mary of the bible is NOT born sinless
the mary of the bible is NOT a perpetual virgin
the mary of the bible is NOT a mediator between man and God
the mary of the bible is the mother of the flesh "man" Jesus _not the mother of GOd who is the I am and is eternal before all things created .

the mary of the Bible and the mary of "Rome" are NOT the same person .

there are many called blessed in scripture ,the peace makers ,the meek, the reviled for his names sake , the redeemed, those who mourn, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,the poor in spirit, -all these are also called "blessed " .. being told that you are blessed is not a title given you some preeminence above others ..it is simply a stated fact .

Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing.And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever."<- THIS is the one to be given honor praise venerate worship and glorify by every created thing .

Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'" we serve no man we serve no religious organisation we serve No church for those in whom the holy Spirit dwells are the church and JESUS ALONE is the head of it . -repent and follow Him . for the Father has said of JESUS .. this is my beloved son ,listen to HIM. he never said ignore what he says and make your own bishop and listen to him.. NOPE that is to mock Gods own declaration in absolute rebellion .

Give me direct unambiguous word of God from the Holy Scriptures or go away. but don't give me luke warm hypocritical garbage that is opposed to Gods own word and has to be twisted and manipulated and overlaid to obscure the truth . We wil be held accountable for every word we communicate and typing words on a internet forum is NOT exempt from accountability

 

[George]

:dot:

 

[Alithis]

dot dot dot ..... why ? because she was betrothed to Joseph . who was of the tribe of judah of the line of david .- its scripture without the additives .

 

[visionary]

The only "blessed" about the girl would be the same thing if our relationship with God was so close. She was not born with sinless genes.

 

[George]

dot dot dot ..... why ? because she was betrothed to Joseph . who was of the tribe of judah of the line of david .- its scripture without the additives .

More so of a head banging moment. :lol: :smash:

 

[Alithis]

More so of a head banging moment. :lol: :smash:

not sure why you would bang your head .

you asked why was mary necessary - and the answer is simple .. "the person named "mary " was not necessary . but a virgin was necessary .

and that virgin had to have connection with the line of david of the tribe of judah as foretold .

so ANY virgin of the right descent who was betrothed to Joseph was the one .
the implication that she had any other attribute is not in the scripture and is a false doctrine .

 

[MoreCoffee]

not sure why you would bang your head .

you asked why was mary necessary - and the answer is simple .. "the person named "mary " was not necessary . but a virgin was necessary .

and that virgin had to have connection with the line of david of the tribe of judah as foretold .

so ANY virgin of the right descent who was betrothed to Joseph was the one .
the implication that she had any other attribute is not in the scripture and is a false doctrine .

If you work hard enough and say it often enough you'll manage to convince yourself that the Blessed Virgin Mary doesn't matter but holy scripture will still say that she is Blessed among women and that the fruit of her womb is holy.

 

[psalms 91]

But does not say that she was anything but human