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You need to do your homework. And no, I won't do it for you.
Either that or you enjoy trolling people.
 

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You need to do your homework. And no, I won't do it for you.
My responses were what they were for the reason that I HAVE done my homework.

If you are stumped when a few obvious inconsistencies in your thesis get pointed out, the need for more study is not on my side. But this matter is only a small thing, nothing for you to get upset about. I just thought you might possibly have an answer or two.
 
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I didn't use the word immoral; you did. I said unjust. NATO insisted on expanding east when they told Russia they wouldn't. With the threat of NATO missiles a few minutes from Russian nukes if they were placed in Ukraine. Remember the Cuban missile crises? We are such hypocrites!
Then there's the 14,000 dead Russian-speaking Ukrainians. I've never been a supporter of Russia, but I believe they are justified here.
I am a conservative Christian but I can't support this unnecessary war that is being prosecuted by men such as Biden. In my eyes, they are a wicked lot whose government is illegal. And all the fake news in the world won't change my mind.
I am almost completely housebound, have been for years and all I do is watch the internet. Before I started doing this I was a Liberal who voted for Trudeau. But what I've seen has changed me. Most people don't have the time or desire to pay attention to the dirty tricks the MSM play. I do. I know what's going on...do you?
I don't believe Putin is justified. They may be wrong too, but still he's just demon posessed. Me me me. Don't they have enough land already? That Ukrainian guy irritates me too though, that he forced the men to stay. So evil. The women could go to Holland and some live in the building where I work with their kids, but the men were forced to fight. I saw a Ukrainian pastor who could escape just in time. He said: We made bombs for them and now they use them to throw them on us.

 

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I don't believe Putin is justified. They may be wrong too, but still he's just demon posessed. Me me me. Don't they have enough land already? That Ukrainian guy irritates me too though, that he forced the men to stay. So evil. The women could go to Holland and some live in the building where I work with their kids, but the men were forced to fight. I saw a Ukrainian pastor who could escape just in time. He said: We made bombs for them and now they use them to throw them on us.

Russia doesn't have much land good for producing crops like the Western nations have. Ukraine is an area of high wheat production. So that's one of the main reasons Russia doesn't want to lose control of it.

Another reason, which few don't know about, is that during WWII the 'big 3' (FDR, Churchhill, Stalin) met to decide how to divide up eastern Europe. It was agreed that surrounding Russia's border there would exist "buffer states" owned by the Soviets. This is one of the reasons why Turkey has been a sore spot in Russia's history after WWII, because Turkey borders Russia. This is why Russia invaded Georgia years ago also, because a section of Georgia was trying to join the western NATO organization. Russia is afraid Ukraine might do the same today. These situations were created when Russia allowed the Berlin Wall to come down, and started a democratization process, which really is a hoax, simply because we see Communist controlled Russia today is reluctant to give up those previous Soviet satellite countries around its borders.
 

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I don't believe Putin is justified. They may be wrong too, but still he's just demon posessed. Me me me. Don't they have enough land already? That Ukrainian guy irritates me too though, that he forced the men to stay. So evil. The women could go to Holland and some live in the building where I work with their kids, but the men were forced to fight. I saw a Ukrainian pastor who could escape just in time. He said: We made bombs for them and now they use them to throw them on us.

If we had honored the Minsk agreements Donbas and eastern Ukraine would still be Ukrainian. Instead, the Minsk agreement was in reality a stalling tactic so NATO could have time to build up the Ukrainian army so they'd be more able to fight Russia. During this time, the Azov regiment of the Ukrainian army shelled to death 14,000 Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine. When the Soviet Union collapsed, an agreement was made that Russian troops would be withdrawn from eastern Germany and in return, the West promised not to expand NATO one inch east. Then NATO expanded 1,000 miles. All along, Russia said that they would never allow Ukraine to join NATO as this would put missiles within a few minutes of Russian nukes. Which would upset the balance of power. Russia invaded Ukraine to protect the eastern Ukrainians who were being slaughtered and to ensure that Ukraine remained neutral. Russia took Crimea after NATO and the CIA overthrew Ukraine's democratically elected government in 2014 because that's where Russia's Black Sea naval fleet is. And there was no way Russia was going to allow an American naval fleet in the Black Sea. NATO is the aggressor here and Biden is the demonized leader pushing for a potential nuclear holocaust. I say demonized because I believe the Lord showed me that Biden is demonized. The man is insane. Did you hear how he condemned MAGA Trump supporters? These people are conservative, God-fearing people for the most part. I could go on...and on, but I won't. America is in the process of going through a cultural revolution with the end goal of America becoming a communist country. I don't take anyone's word for any of what I've just written. I've spent literally thousands of hours scouring the internet to arrive at this point. The globalist bankers want a one world government with them in control. Russia stands in the way of this. Welcome to the Fourth Reich!
 

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If we had honored the Minsk agreements Donbas and eastern Ukraine would still be Ukrainian. Instead, the Minsk agreement was in reality a stalling tactic so NATO could have time to build up the Ukrainian army so they'd be more able to fight Russia. During this time, the Azov regiment of the Ukrainian army shelled to death 14,000 Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine. When the Soviet Union collapsed, an agreement was made that Russian troops would be withdrawn from eastern Germany and in return, the West promised not to expand NATO one inch east. Then NATO expanded 1,000 miles. All along, Russia said that they would never allow Ukraine to join NATO as this would put missiles within a few minutes of Russian nukes. Which would upset the balance of power. Russia invaded Ukraine to protect the eastern Ukrainians who were being slaughtered and to ensure that Ukraine remained neutral. Russia took Crimea after NATO and the CIA overthrew Ukraine's democratically elected government in 2014 because that's where Russia's Black Sea naval fleet is. And there was no way Russia was going to allow an American naval fleet in the Black Sea. NATO is the aggressor here and Biden is the demonized leader pushing for a potential nuclear holocaust. I say demonized because I believe the Lord showed me that Biden is demonized. The man is insane. Did you hear how he condemned MAGA Trump supporters? These people are conservative, God-fearing people for the most part. I could go on...and on, but I won't. America is in the process of going through a cultural revolution with the end goal of America becoming a communist country. I don't take anyone's word for any of what I've just written. I've spent literally thousands of hours scouring the internet to arrive at this point. The globalist bankers want a one world government with them in control. Russia stands in the way of this. Welcome to the Fourth Reich!
Putin keeps talking about Nazi's and I know that there's a group that wants to get war so the ac can come and the North defeats the ac in the Bible, but they also will want to destroy Israel and then they get destroyed.
 

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Putin keeps talking about Nazi's and I know that there's a group that wants to get war so the ac can come and the North defeats the ac in the Bible, but they also will want to destroy Israel and then they get destroyed.
The "North defeats the ac in the Bible"?

Where's that written?

Christ is Who comes to defeat the ac (Antichrist).
 
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