Mike Pence running for President

[Romanos]

What are your thoughts?

 

[Lamb]

Nope. I just don't care for the guy.

 

[Albion]

It's not a certainty that it will be Trump who's nominated. All sorts of developments and changes are possible between now and then. However, it won't be Pence.

 

[Ammi]

I don't like Pence at all.

 

[psalms 91]

While I wouldnt vote for him he is honorable and honest, more than I can say for Trump, he is finally getting what he so richly deserves.

 

[Albion]

While I wouldnt vote for him he is honorable and honest, more than I can say for Trump, he is finally getting what he so richly deserves.

...even if it means the end of free elections in our country?

Don't think that preventing a presidential candidate from making an effective run for office by issuing a hundred or so indictments against him at just the right time will be something only used against Donald Trump. Not if the current sequence of events goes the way those people want it to go.

As a comparison, when I was young the idea of impeaching a president was almost unthinkable, although we all knew that it was possible. But then came Watergate, and it became thinkable, and guess what?? Trump was impeached twice on vague charges during his one term in office, and that followed an impeachment of President Clinton earlier, and now today many legislators are calling for Biden to be impeached.

In almost all the dictatorships of the world, the rulers still allow elections, if you've noticed. They just make sure, in one way or another, that no challenger is capable of winning!

And it's also not unusual for a previous officeholder to be jailed on some charge or other after he's been ousted from his elected position.

 

[Josiah]

I'm good with his views....

But Pence seems to lack both focus and passion. It seems to me all he is offering is that he was a VP under a president he doesn't support and he didn't cave to Trumps demands that he act wrongly about the 2020 election. Ok. I think MORE is needed to gain the nomination. And he just seems to be half asleep half the time.

I'm NOT a Trumper. But the HUGE crowd running against him doesn't seem to include any obvious alternative. I think a LOT will be looking to the debates - to see if someone rises to the top. Meanwhile, Trump refuses to agree to support the Republican nomination - which excludes him from the debates and sets himself up for a Third Party run, which of course absolutely guarentees a Biden second term (or maybe Harris first term if he dies or resigns).


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[Albion]

I can agree with a lot of that, but do you really believe that Trump will lose the Republican nomination simply because he doesn't choose to debate this pack of also-rans? Especially when everyone knows that his time has been conscripted by a bunch of Democratic prosecutors who want him in court as often as possible?

That would outrage the majority of Republican voters and virtually guarantee a loss in November, 2024 for whoever gets the nomination.

Plus, Trump is not--and will not be--the only candidate who refuses to take that pledge to support whoever wins the party's nomination. Some others have already said that this is their position (since the favorite is Trump and they cannot abide him), while yet others will sooner or later see that they have NOT caught on with the voters, meaning that there'd then be no particular need for them to agree to the pledge so that they can continue debating for no gain.

 

[psalms 91]

...even if it means the end of free elections in our country?

Don't think that preventing a presidential candidate from making an effective run for office by issuing a hundred or so indictments against him at just the right time will be something only used against Donald Trump. Not if the current sequence of events goes the way those people want it to go.

As a comparison, when I was young the idea of impeaching a president was almost unthinkable, although we all knew that it was possible. But then came Watergate, and it became thinkable, and guess what?? Trump was impeached twice on vague charges during his one term in office, and that followed an impeachment of President Clinton earlier, and now today many legislators are calling for Biden to be impeached.

In almost all the dictatorships of the world, the rulers still allow elections, if you've noticed. They just make sure, in one way or another, that no challenger is capable of winning!

And it's also not unusual for a previous officeholder to be jailed on some charge or other after he's been ousted from his elected position.

Trump is guilty if insurrection at the least and is a grifter and s conj man for sure. It is scary how many people blindly follow him no matter what he is guiolty of. He has insulted war heros, called Putin someone to be admired, and dishonored women everywhere by his actions. He is a cheater and a liar, all proven so for those who choose to follow him all I can say is you appear to be blind to what he really is.

 

[Albion]

Trump is guilty if insurrection at the least

He has insulted war heros, called Putin someone to be admired, and dishonored women everywhere by his actions.

Which president are you referring to there??? LOL


And the topic of this thread is Pence, not Trump. You didn't make a single reference to him.

 

[psalms 91]

As I said Pence is honorable he upheld the constitution as opposed to the man

 

[Albion]

As I said Pence is honorable he upheld the constitution as opposed to the man

Not in the post to which I was replying, you didn't. But it's correct that previously you had written three words about Pence (''honest and honorable'') which was done in order to depict another candidate as lacking those qualities.

 

[NewCreation435]

He doesn't seem to have much of a personality and you need that today.

 

[Lamb]

Trump is guilty if insurrection at the least

Did you listen to his speech? He asked for a peaceful walk/demonstration.

As for Pence, he was a politician in Indiana and wasn't the best person for the job. I don't think he's Presidential material, but then again, a lot of them aren't.

 

[Albion]

Did you listen to his speech? He asked for a peaceful walk/demonstration.

We're facing a political trend in which the most extravagant language is used routinely (and incorrectly) in order to 'buffalo' the public which then repeats it uncritically. The "insurrection" that wasn't an insurrection is a good example of that trend.

Recall that the non-insurrection of January 6 was also routinely called the worst attack on the Capitol in all of history. Of course, it wasn't. The place has been bombed several times and, on another occasion, gunmen actually shot four Congressmen on the floor of the House of Representatives.




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[Albion]

He doesn't seem to have much of a personality and you need that today.

Trailing badly in all the polls, Pence apparently has decided to go on the offensive. Unfortunately for him, all the new approaches further alienate him from the Republican voters who will determine the Party's nominee.

Such things as attacking Trump and saying that the things in America which cry out for improvement aren't his concern might play well, in theory, with Democrats, but these aren't the people from whom he needs help.

 

[Lamb]

Trailing badly in all the polls, Pence apparently has decided to go on the offensive. Unfortunately for him, all the new approaches further alienate him from the Republican voters who will determine the Party's nominee.

Such things as attacking Trump and saying that the things in America which cry out for improvement aren't his concern might play well, in theory, with Democrats, but these aren't the people from whom he needs help.

Sometimes he tries to play both teams to be accepted and that doesn't always work out for the best for anyone.