Child rapists eligible for the death penalty

[Jazzy]

Florida just passed a law that child molesters could be sentenced to death.

Do you agree or disagree and why?

 

[Lamb]

Part of me agrees with it but I'm not sure I'm for the death penalty, so part of me says it's too strong of a punishment. I guess my mind isn't made up.

 

[Stravinsk]

I agree. Sexual abuse of the very young is sometimes about perverted attraction, although from what I have learned, it is more often about a deliberate attempt to psychologically victimize the innocent to gain a greater degree of mind control over that person through the trauma. In the latter case this is a form of Satanic ritual abuse and the perpetrators should be sent straight to God for judgement.

 

[Albion]

In this country, almost nobody is put to death anymore, not even for first degree murder. That has to be considered when thinking about applying the "death penalty" for anything less.

However, with the new Florida legislation, the point of it probably is to take a stand against the growing support for the sexualization of children that is evident in other parts of society. In other words, how many molesters/rapists were expected actually to be executed as a result of this change may not have been the purpose for it.

 

[Josiah]

I'm against the death penalty. But I am horrified by how children are so often violated - even by schools promoting disgusting things to them and especially by those who kill them in abortion.

 

[Origen]

Rapist should be sentenced to dead or castration.

 

[Messy]

I'm against the death penalty, because they're demon posessed and there is a chance they can get saved, but it can't be that they have more rights, which is what is the case in Holland. They rape one, get a 2nd chance and rape and kill the next and then everyone is upset when a kid gets raped and killed, but the police saw they had child porn ages ago or they got one year for threatening girls with a knife and abusing them. Society has to be protected. That's more important. Nowadays they 'help' the victims with euthanasia. World upside down. Instead of killing the rapist kill the victim.

 

[Lamb]

Rapist should be sentenced to dead or castration.

I'm all for medical castration!

 

[Lees]

I have never understood how Christians can be against the death penalty.

The death penalty is from God. Not man.

(Gen. 9:5-6) "And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man."

God has given man the authority...the responsibility...to exercise the death penatly. But, whiney Christians who want to just love everybody, reject and protest the death penalty, under the guise of being 'godly'.

Thus murderers and rapists are set free to do their bidding again, and again. All because whiney Christians just want to love everybody. They are not in touch with reality. They are not in touch with God.

Lees

 

[Messy]

I have never understood how Christians can be against the death penalty.

The death penalty is from God. Not man.

(Gen. 9:5-6) "And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man."

God has given man the authority...the responsibility...to exercise the death penatly. But, whiney Christians who want to just love everybody, reject and protest the death penalty, under the guise of being 'godly'.

Thus murderers and rapists are set free to do their bidding again, and again. All because whiney Christians just want to love everybody. They are not in touch with reality. They are not in touch with God.

Lees

Because it's O.T. texts and then you may also give everyone who commits adultery or isn't virgin with marriage the death penalty, like they did in the O.T. Jesus now died. In Israel in the O.T. the only way to get rid of evil was to kill people, well, except David, he didn't get the death penalty for adultery and murder, cause it already pointed to Jesus I think and btw Moses also killed someone and Paul killed christians. Jesus didn't want to stone the woman caught in adultery and she got saved. She died with Christ. Take son of Sam. That guy got saved in jail. I'm glad they didn't give him the death penalty. But I think it is evil to give them more rights and extra chances and put society in danger to give em another chance, so dangerous murderers and rapists they should just give life long in prison to protect society. But to be honest, sometimes you see some monster and I don't care. I have prayed for em when I read in the News that some were going to get killed, but for instance that man who kidnapped Amanda Berry and those others, he killed himself. I did not really shed a tear when I heard it.

 

[Lees]

Because it's O.T. texts and then you may also give everyone who commits adultery or isn't virgin with marriage the death penalty, like they did in the O.T. Jesus now died. In Israel in the O.T. the only way to get rid of evil was to kill people, well, except David, he didn't get the death penalty for adultery and murder, cause it already pointed to Jesus I think and btw Moses also killed someone and Paul killed christians. Jesus didn't want to stone the woman caught in adultery and she got saved. She died with Christ. Take son of Sam. That guy got saved in jail. I'm glad they didn't give him the death penalty. But I think it is evil to give them more rights and extra chances and put society in danger to give em another chance, so dangerous murderers and rapists they should just give life long in prison to protect society. But to be honest, sometimes you see some monster and I don't care. I have prayed for em when I read in the News that some were going to get killed, but for instance that man who kidnapped Amanda Berry and those others, he killed himself. I did not really shed a tear when I heard it.

God giving man the resposibility for exercising the death penalty is Old Testament, but it is not the Mosaic Law. And we are not under the Mosaic Law, but it is there for our instruction.

God gave the death penalty when all of mankind was present in Noah's sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. (Gen. 9:5-6) It has never been revoked. It is still man's responsibility.

God showed mercy to Moses, David, and Paul. That's on Him. That does not revoke the death penalty He gave man to live under.

The death penalty is not given to the Church to exercise. It is given to mankind. It is given to be part of any government formed by man. You don't run a nation like a Church.

Just because one becomes a Christian in prison doesn't revoke the death penalty. It doesn't mean you ignore God's institution of the death penalty for murder.

You say son of sam became a Christian in prison. And, maybe he did. Would you feel safe if he were let out of prison and moved into your neighborhood? Or would you worry?

Lees

 

[Stravinsk]

This isn't adultery or the theft of material goods or even rape of an adult.

It's one of the most horrible crimes against the most innocent. It is used in Satanic rituals to gain mind control over the very young. It is one of the most horrible crimes and those who commit it should be sentenced to death.

 

[Messy]

God giving man the resposibility for exercising the death penalty is Old Testament, but it is not the Mosaic Law. And we are not under the Mosaic Law, but it is there for our instruction.

God gave the death penalty when all of mankind was present in Noah's sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. (Gen. 9:5-6) It has never been revoked. It is still man's responsibility.

God showed mercy to Moses, David, and Paul. That's on Him. That does not revoke the death penalty He gave man to live under.

The death penalty is not given to the Church to exercise. It is given to mankind. It is given to be part of any government formed by man. You don't run a nation like a Church.

Just because one becomes a Christian in prison doesn't revoke the death penalty. It doesn't mean you ignore God's institution of the death penalty for murder.

You say son of sam became a Christian in prison. And, maybe he did. Would you feel safe if he were let out of prison and moved into your neighborhood? Or would you worry?

Lees

I would feel safe. That guy is really changed.

Whoever sheds man’s blood,
By man his blood shall be shed;
For in the image of God
He made man.

Is that God installing the death penalty? This sounds just like: who grabs the sword shall be killed by the sword. And we can die with Christ. That's why there's now grace.
Jesus said that the disciples shouldn't carry a sword.
But it doesn't always work and He gave the sword to the govt.

Humanism and false christianity protect wolves and it looks like that false slimy stuff has gone from the church to the world. Be christian and give this unrepentant wolf the chance to kill and rape the next one. Hey how could it be that so many kids in church got raped? No idea. If you complain about a wolf you have to be more forgiving and they protect him to go on doing it.
Trump leaves Syria. Oh. Now we have to take those ISIS women back. Can't they kill em there? No. Laws. Hello sweethearts. Welcome back to Holland where you get a year prison and a house and govt money.

 

[Messy]

This isn't adultery or the theft of material goods or even rape of an adult.

It's one of the most horrible crimes against the most innocent. It is used in Satanic rituals to gain mind control over the very young. It is one of the most horrible crimes and those who commit it should be sentenced to death.

We had a girl in a church I used to go to who got raped by her dad. She was then 16. Don't know how long it had been going on. My ex played guitar there and kicked a demon out of him and she forgave him. I saw on Facebook, she's now in her 40s, a pic from her mom and dad. She's very fond of him. Lucky dad. She could have gone to the police.

 

[Stravinsk]

We had a girl in a church I used to go to who got raped by her dad. She was then 16. Don't know how long it had been going on. My ex played guitar there and kicked a demon out of him and she forgave him. I saw on Facebook, she's now in her 40s, a pic from her mom and dad. She's very fond of him. Lucky dad. She could have gone to the police.

16 is young and a "child" by our laws. It is a horrible thing either way. Satanists go much younger. Jews who follow their Talmud can rape a child provided it's not vaginally but through anal intercourse.

Sanhedrin 54b:20-21

The Satanic Jewish Talmud states:

The Gemara asks: What does it mean that the Torah does not deem a younger boy to be like an older boy? Rav says: It means that the Torah does not deem the intercourse of one who is less than nine years old to be like the intercourse of one who is at least nine years old, as for a male’s act of intercourse to have the legal status of full-fledged intercourse the minimum age is nine years. And Shmuel says: The Torah does not deem the intercourse of a child who is less than three years old to be like that of one who is three years old.


במאי קמיפלגי רב סבר כל דאיתיה בשוכב איתיה בנשכב וכל דליתיה בשוכב ליתיה בנשכב
The Gemara asks: With regard to what principle do Rav and Shmuel disagree? The Gemara answers: Rav holds that any halakha that applies to one who engages in intercourse actively applies to one who engages in intercourse passively, and any halakha that does not apply to one who engages in intercourse actively does not apply to one who engages in intercourse passively. Therefore, just as one who engages in intercourse actively is not liable if he is less than nine years old, as the intercourse of such a child does not have the halakhic status of intercourse, so too, if a child who is less than nine years old engages in homosexual intercourse passively, the one who engages in intercourse with him is not liable.

 

[Lees]

I would feel safe. That guy is really changed.

Whoever sheds man’s blood,
By man his blood shall be shed;
For in the image of God
He made man.

Is that God installing the death penalty? This sounds just like: who grabs the sword shall be killed by the sword. And we can die with Christ. That's why there's now grace.
Jesus said that the disciples shouldn't carry a sword.
But it doesn't always work and He gave the sword to the govt.

Humanism and false christianity protect wolves and it looks like that false slimy stuff has gone from the church to the world. Be christian and give this unrepentant wolf the chance to kill and rape the next one. Hey how could it be that so many kids in church got raped? No idea. If you complain about a wolf you have to be more forgiving and they protect him to go on doing it.
Trump leaves Syria. Oh. Now we have to take those ISIS women back. Can't they kill em there? No. Laws. Hello sweethearts. Welcome back to Holland where you get a year prison and a house and govt money.

Lots of people 'change' in prison. Lot's of people get 'saved' in prison. And I'm sure for some, it is real. That doesn't revoke the death penalty. And yes, (Gen. 9:5-6) is the institution by God for the death penalty.

Before the flood man did not have that authority. that is why Cain was protected by God from any who tried to kill him. (Gen. 4:13-15) And it was why wickedness multiplied in the earth causing God to bring the Flood. So, in order to curb the wickedness of man, to slow it down, the death penalty was given immediately after the flood to man to exercise.

But once again, bleeding hearts would rather trust their emotions then obey God. And God says, ok. If you don't want to exercise the responsibility given you, then you can live with the results. Which is where we are at today.

As far as the individual believer is concerned, Jesus said the disciples were not to carry a sword when preaching the Kingdom to Israel. Once Israel rejected Christ, they were to carry a sword. (Luke 9:3, 10:4) (Luke 22:36-38)

Again, the death penalty was given to mankind. Not to the Church.

Lees

 

[Messy]

Lots of people 'change' in prison. Lot's of people get 'saved' in prison. And I'm susre for some, it is real. That doesn't revoke the death penalty. And yes, (Gen. 9:5-6) is the institution by God for the death penalty.

Before the flood man did not have that authority. that is why Cain was protected by God from any who tried to kill him. (Gen. 4:13-15) And it was why wickedness multiplied in the earth causing God to bring the Flood. So, in order to curb the wickedness of man, to slow it down, the death penalty was given to man to exercise.

But once again, bleeding hearts would rather trust their emotions then obey God. And God says, ok. If you don't want to exercise the responsibility given you, then you can live with the results. Which is where we are at today.

As far as the individual believer is concerned, Jesus said the disciples were not to carry a sword when preaching the Kingdom to Israel. Once Israel rejected Christ, they were to carry a sword. (Luke 22:36-38)

Again, the death penalty was given to mankind. Not to the Church.

Lees

Interesting. I had no idea. Once a Jehovah's witness came at the door when I was a teen and he was a pacifist, so I was just like: oh great, me too! You may not kill. But it's all a bit more complicated. A guy who used to post here, his dad is a WWII veteran and he was still mad that they weren't allowed to free North Korea.