Is The Little Mermaid demonic?

[Lucian Hodoboc]

Pastor Vlad Savchuk seems to think that it is. Apparently, fairy tales in which anything supernatural that is not related to God happens are demonic. This aligns with some of the Orthodox teachings of the Church Fathers on fantasy and imagination.

What are your views on the matter?

 

[Albion]

In my view, we don't need any more cults of personality built around "do-it-yourself" ministers (or "ministry couples") who appointed themselves to be the spokesmen for a new slant on Christianity (or the old one but with scarier claims) and who will teach you all about it for a donation.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

In my view, we don't need any more cults of personality built around "do-it-yourself" ministers (or "ministry couples") who appointed themselves to be the spokesmen for a new slant on Christianity that they've fabricated by themselves and who will teach you all about it for a donation.

She's literally a fish-human hybrid. And she uses magic to turn into a human in order to marry and have children with a human. Pretty much a Nephilim abomination thing.

And to think she used to be my Disney crush when I was younger. I didn't care much about Belle and Cinderella. My favorites were Ariel and Jasmine.

 

[Messy]

Pastor Vlad Savchuk seems to think that it is. Apparently, fairy tales in which anything supernatural that is not related to God happens are demonic. This aligns with some of the Orthodox teachings of the Church Fathers on fantasy and imagination.

What are your views on the matter?

I think he's right. I always thought it was innocent. I had a watch with the little mermaid and then I went to a couple to get prayer and that guy said: What's that? Oh just my watch. Hm. He did see nothing wrong with it and thought he had been mistaken, thinking that God told him it was occult, but afterwards I thought eeww and threw it away anyway. Also because the Disney version made it cute and nice for the kids, but I have seen the original as a kid and she basically made an idol from that guy and she turned to sea foam when he rejected her.

 

[Albion]

In order to be clear about this and not just be picking and choosing among famous monuments or stories that are "demonic," how about a listing of those we should have nothing to do with?

 

[Messy]

In order to be clear about this and not just be picking and choosing among famous monuments that are demonic, how about a listing of those we should have nothing to do with?

I once read that all those fairytales are originally evil. 8 Fairy Tales And Their Not-So-Happy Endings

The Disturbing Origins of Fairy Tales

Fairy tales like Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty and Little Red Riding Hood are some of the first stories many children are told: full of magical...

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Originally, Little Red Riding Hood was simply eaten by the wolf, a comeuppance for her naivety. Perrault originally moralised it as a warning for pretty young women not to listen to strangers. Similarly, it was Snow White’s mother (not her stepmother) who wanted to eat her lungs and liver, and she meets her comeuppance in the original story by dancing in agony in red hot iron shoes until she falls down dead.

 

[Albion]

I once read that all those fairytales are originally evil. 8 Fairy Tales And Their Not-So-Happy Endings

Yes, but that's true of much that comes to us from ancient times. They're supposed to be demonic or, if not that, pagan. Similar warnings.

But the issue is whether or not we are subjecting ourselves to--or cooperating with--demons by just having a certain image around, even if we don't associate any of those old ideas with it.

So that's my thinking. The question we were asked was "what are your views on the matter." I gave my response, but it doesn't bother me if other people look at it differently and fashion their own lives and worship based upon fear of the Little Mermaid, the Statue of Liberty, or some other image. Even if they're said to be the creation of some group that itself is a myth!

 

[Stravinsk]

At around the 5 minute I had this guy pegged conclusively as teaching false doctrine. He reasons that God is "provoked to Jealousy" because the "spirits" he is talking about (of say, the water - that are called "gods") are REAL. Not like Santa or the tooth fairy. By the same reasoning I could conclude that God was angry when the Israelites built a golden calf and worshiped it because it was a real "foreign god".

 

[Messy]

At around the 5 minute I had this guy pegged conclusively as teaching false doctrine. He reasons that God is "provoked to Jealousy" because the "spirits" he is talking about (of say, the water - that are called "gods") are REAL. Not like Santa or the tooth fairy. By the same reasoning I could conclude that God was angry when the Israelites built a golden calf and worshiped it because it was a real "foreign god".

Deuteronomy 32:16–17 (ESV)
16 They stirred him to jealousy with strange gods;
with abominations they provoked him to anger.
17 They sacrificed to demons that were no gods,
to gods they had never known,
to new gods that had come recently,
whom your fathers had never dreaded.

 

[Stravinsk]

Deuteronomy 32:16–17 (ESV)
16 They stirred him to jealousy with strange gods;
with abominations they provoked him to anger.
17 They sacrificed to demons that were no gods,
to gods they had never known,
to new gods that had come recently,
whom your fathers had never dreaded.

If you listen to what the guy says from about 7:40-8:30, he definitely believes that entities "higher than demons", "given their rule by Satan" occupy parts of the world like the sea etc. He says that some followers thereof have "magic powers". As an example he quotes where God fights against the "gods of Egypt". This is in reference to Exodus 12:12. What happens in Exodus? All their (the "gods") supposed power is exposed as nothing. Their "gods" are nothing. They have no real power, only to deceive humans into worshiping that which isn't.

It doesn't matter what they are called. If a human sets up a mountain, a rock, a plastic plate or a rocking chair as their "god", prays to it, worships it, bows to it, sacrifices animals to it, none of this makes it a real power, only over that human who is listening to/obeying a demon in reference to it.

The difference here is clear. He is teaching that the demon's lies are real and that the "spiritual battle" is to "fight" (what is real).

 

[Messy]

If you listen to what the guy says from about 7:40-8:30, he definitely believes that entities "higher than demons", "given their rule by Satan" occupy parts of the world like the sea etc. He says that some followers thereof have "magic powers". As an example he quotes where God fights against the "gods of Egypt". This is in reference to Exodus 12:12. What happens in Exodus? All their (the "gods") supposed power is exposed as nothing. Their "gods" are nothing. They have no real power, only to deceive humans into worshiping that which isn't.

It doesn't matter what they are called. If a human sets up a mountain, a rock, a plastic plate or a rocking chair as their "god", prays to it, worships it, bows to it, sacrifices animals to it, none of this makes it a real power, only over that human who is listening to/obeying a demon in reference to it.

The difference here is clear. He is teaching that the demon's lies are real and that the "spiritual battle" is to "fight" (what is real).

Yes Jesus disarmed them on the cross. They have no power if you have Jesus.
This is the first time I heard someone say there are spirits over sees, but Daniel said there were powers over countries.

Then he said to me, “Do not fear, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard; and I have come because of your words. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia. Now I have come to make you understand what will happen to your people in the latter days, for the vision refers to many days yet to come.”
Daniel 10:12‭-‬14 NKJV

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Then he said to me, “Do not fear, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard; and I have come because of your w

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[Messy]

Yes, but that's true of much that comes to us from ancient times. They're supposed to be demonic or, if not that, pagan. Similar warnings.

But the issue is whether or not we are subjecting ourselves to--or cooperating with--demons by just having a certain image around, even if we don't associate any of those old ideas with it.

So that's my thinking. The question we were asked was "what are your views on the matter." I gave my response, but it doesn't bother me if other people look at it differently and fashion their own lives and worship based upon fear of the Little Mermaid, the Statue of Liberty, or some other image. Even if they're said to be the creation of some group that itself is a myth!

My sons played some video game and I try not to be the whine mom,but I couldn't stand those occult monsters. Play something else. No mom you exaggerate. It's just a game. A game with a witch. Okay whatever. Who cares. Then I had a dream. A demon was trying to come inside via my balcony door and I was like: how can he open it from the outside? And someone said: because you have that (can't remember) hanging on your wall. Huh?So when I woke up, the only thing that hung there was a painting my son made from the wizard from that game. I just threw it away. When my nephew was a toddler he kept crying at night day in day out, couldn't sleep. So my sister, who wasnt even christian, told my mom and she saw that she had gotten 2 Wajang dolls from someone. So she told her to throw em out and she did and he had no nightmares anymore. After I divorced I needed a house, so I rented whatever there was available. Turned out to be a former sex shop. My son was 4. He said: Mom what are all those ppl doing here? People? There's noone. Yeah all these people here. Eeeww. I'll kick em out. Kicked em out. He said happily (he wasnt scared at all): I see one coming out of you too! Aaaaaaah! Call ghostbusters! So I called daddy and he came over and kicked em out. He said: Do you still see them? They went to the baby room. Kicked em out from there and he saw em leave. Since then I never heard him about something like that anymore. It was only once.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

My sons played some video game and I try not to be the whine mom,but I couldn't stand those occult monsters. Play something else. No mom you exaggerate. It's just a game. A game with a witch. Okay whatever. Who cares. Then I had a dream. A demon was trying to come inside via my balcony door and I was like: how can he open it from the outside? And someone said: because you have that (can't remember) hanging on your wall. Huh?So when I woke up, the only thing that hung there was a painting my son made from the wizard from that game. I just threw it away. When my nephew was a toddler he kept crying at night day in day out, couldn't sleep. So my sister, who wasnt even christian, told my mom and she saw that she had gotten 2 Wajang dolls from someone. So she told her to throw em out and she did and he had no nightmares anymore. After I divorced I needed a house, so I rented whatever there was available. Turned out to be a former sex shop. My son was 4. He said: Mom what are all those ppl doing here? People? There's noone. Yeah all these people here. Eeeww. I'll kick em out. Kicked em out. He said happily (he wasnt scared at all): I see one coming out of you too! Aaaaaaah! Call ghostbusters! So I called daddy and he came over and kicked em out. He said: Do you still see them? They went to the baby room. Kicked em out from there and he saw em leave. Since then I never heard him about something like that anymore. It was only once.

All this theology about demons having rights and opening doors and spiritual contracts that we are not aware of makes me think that any deity Who would allow such things to happen is absolutely terrifying.

Imagine creating a world in which you throw creatures (humans) without their consent and allow vicious spirits to have rights over these creatures according to specific rules that the creatures have only vague knowledge about, and then allow these evil spirits to torture these creatures for years simply because the creatures are ignorant in regards to the rule system... and calling yourself merciful when you rescue some of them from the torture.

 

[Messy]

All this theology about demons having rights and opening doors and spiritual contracts that we are not aware of makes me think that any deity Who would allow such things to happen is absolutely terrifying.

Imagine creating a world in which you throw creatures (humans) without their consent and allow vicious spirits to have rights over these creatures according to specific rules that the creatures have only vague knowledge about, and then allow these evil spirits to torture these creatures for years simply because the creatures are ignorant in regards to the rule system... and calling yourself merciful when you rescue some of them from the torture.

They came into existance when the watchers or sons of God, angels had to have sex with women. The offspring, nephilim or giants, have become disembodied demons. When Jesus died and rose He bound the worst ones. He flooded them all. They wanted to ruin the human race. The angels who did that are locked up and the worst demons are locked up. The rest became powerless through Jesus' offer, but you can give them some power when you sin or go into occult stuff or talk with the dead. That's why God always warned for that in the O.T. Don't make idols. Idols attract demons. He gave the church the keys, authority over all demons.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

If demons didn't have access to this world, there would be no demons for the idols to attract. God is all-powerful, so He could prevent the demons from existing on Earth. He doesn't.

 

[Messy]

Once there was a girl in a tiny house group church, but almost noone showed up and I was asked to help pray for her. My goodness. I don't know what she got herself into. You get the attacks too when you pray for others. That's why I never kicked out demons from people. Who knows if they keep willfully sinning and opening the door and why must I do that? When a sickness demon attacked my dad, sure, no problem, I kick that out and I don't care if the devil bothers me for it, but all those ppl in a church who think it's the most normal thing that some pastor kicks out demons from them and he gets all the attacks, cause the devil hates it, I'm like bye go to T.B. Joshua or someone else who is called to do that. I refuse. At night, after I prayed for that girl, a filthy demon tried to rape me. Bye. I only bind demons if people almost die and are not saved. Then I bind the powers that blind them. Or disease demons from people I know.

 

[Messy]

If demons didn't have access to this world, there would be no demons for the idols to attract. God is all-powerful, so He could prevent the demons from existing on Earth. He doesn't.

Again the same thing. You keep blaming God instead of helping Him to kick out demons from people. He is God and you're not.

 

[Albion]

My sons played some video game and I try not to be the whine mom,but I couldn't stand those occult monsters. Play something else. No mom you exaggerate. It's just a game. A game with a witch. Okay whatever. Who cares.

We started off here with the writings and videos produced by an amateur theologian telling followers that a statue that isn't normally thought to be demonic actually is demonic. If the topic now has turned to young children playing a game involving them manipulating witches, I'd say the issue has changed significantly.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

Again the same thing. You keep blaming God instead of helping Him to kick out demons from people. He is God and you're not.

Because every single time I investigate the problem of evil in Christian theology, it leads me to the original cause, which is that God allowed it. Couple this with the fact that He refuses to give any explanation for His behavior under the pretext that "we're stupid, He's smart", and you might understand why I can't find any rational reason for me to feel love or loyalty towards Him.

What am I supposed to do?

Also, why would God need help to do things if He is omnipotent?

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

Once there was a girl in a tiny house group church, but almost noone showed up and I was asked to help pray for her. My goodness. I don't know what she got herself into. You get the attacks too when you pray for others. That's why I never kicked out demons from people. Who knows if they keep willfully sinning and opening the door and why must I do that? When a sickness demon attacked my dad, sure, no problem, I kick that out and I don't care if the devil bothers me for it, but all those ppl in a church who think it's the most normal thing that some pastor kicks out demons from them and he gets all the attacks, cause the devil hates it, I'm like bye go to T.B. Joshua or someone else who is called to do that. I refuse. At night, after I prayed for that girl, a filthy demon tried to rape me. Bye. I only bind demons if people almost die and are not saved. Then I bind the powers that blind them. Or disease demons from people I know.

There are people who murder and torture and commit genocide, and they don't get any demonic attacks, and someone gets all sort of suffering for watching adult videos or smoking or some other such sins. Do you understand how messed up this system seems from my perspective? Does God understand? He does, of course. Does He care?