The Word Trinity not in scripture? I believe it is.

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The traditional model fails to take into account Jesus' plurality. Adding together the
Father + the Spirit + the Word + the Man; I get a four pieces instead of three.

Compare Ezek 1:1-28 where a man sits above four beings. The whole of that
scene-- man and all --depicts Jehovah's glory.
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The traditional model fails to take into account Jesus' plurality. Adding together the
Father + the Spirit + the Word + the Man; I get a four pieces instead of three.
Most people get fewer than that because you are talking there about the two natures of Christ, not the nature of God, i.e. the Trinity. Or else it's about names given to Jesus in the Bible.

The word and the Man refer to Jesus, but Father and the Spirit quite clearly refer to other persons of the Trinity.

And while we're at it, there are many additional names given in Scripture for Jesus Christ, if we are going to count them up. The Good Shepherd, Immanuel, High Priest, Alpha and Omega, and Redeemer, for example.
 
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In other words, you have made up your mind and you don't care what the evidence is.
There is no evidence. Only a lack of evidence that you are trying to submit as evidence.
 

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The Word and the Man refer to Jesus

The Word is an eternal spirit being whose origin is currently unknown, whereas
Jesus is a temporal material being whose origin can be traced from David all the
way back to the very dust from whence Adam came.

God's next of kin is very unique. According to Luke 1:31-35 & 1Cor 15:45-47, he
exists as a spirit being and a material being simultaneously.
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The Word is an eternal spirit being whose origin is currently unknown, whereas
Jesus is a temporal material being whose origin can be traced from David all the
way back to the very dust from whence Adam came.
In Scripture, that expression ('the word') refers either to Holy Scripture or to Christ himself.

God's next of kin is very unique. According to Luke 1:31-35 & 1Cor 15:45-47, he exists as a spirit being and a material being simultaneously.
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As I was trying to say in the previous post, the second person of the Trinity who incarnated as Jesus of Nazareth then had two complete natures, divine and human.

What you are saying here sounds at first glance to be about the same thing but, of course, it is contrary to the Trinity (and to this forum) to believe that Jesus was/is "God's next of kin" because Christ is God, not a relative.

"In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with God and the WORD was GOD" (John 1:1)
 
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The translator defines his use of the Greek Word [Τριάς]. Saying“For there are three [Τριάς] that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” 1 John 5:7 (KJV 1900) So how can anyone deny that it doesn't mean what he defines it as meaning?
 

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If you want an English translation it's not there. But the Greek is. They say ; The corresponding word in Greek is "Τριάς" (Trias), meaning "a set of three" or "the number three."[4] and Found in the Johannine Comma:

“For there are three [Τριάς] that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” 1 John 5:7 (KJV 1900)
Trias (in Greek) is not Trinitas (in Latin), so it seems that "trinity" is not in 1 John 5:7-8 regardless of the comma.
 

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Trias (in Greek) is not Trinitas (in Latin), so it seems that "trinity" is not in 1 John 5:7-8 regardless of the comma.
It is the trinity in greek, the language of the Bible.
 

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It is the trinity in greek, the language of the Bible.
Greek is the language of the Bible?

One ought to write to the chief Rabbis around the world to let them know that Hebrew and Aramaic are no longer languages of the Bible.
 

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Greek is the language of the Bible?

One ought to write to the chief Rabbis around the world to let them know that Hebrew and Aramaic are no longer languages of the Bible.
Someone should tell them Greek was the language of the first-century bible Jesus and the disciples used. It was the LXX.
 

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Someone should tell them Greek was the language of the first-century bible Jesus and the disciples used. It was the LXX.
It is true that the New Testament is written in Greek and that many of its quotes from the Old Testament are from the LXX.
 
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