What are your thoughts on women wearing head coverings?

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I’ve known many women in the church throughout the years who refuse to wear head coverings, even though the Bible commands it in the New Testament.

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It was cultural for that time period and is not cultural today.
 

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What do you mean?

If it was so important for women of all time to wear a head covering then wouldn't God have forced Eve to do that? That's why it was only for that specific culture during that time period.
 

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If it was so important for women of all time to wear a head covering then wouldn't God have forced Eve to do that? That's why it was only for that specific culture during that time period.

How is it not a part of our culture today? What does time periods have to do with it? I’ve seen Apostolic women wearing head coverings, as well as women from the Mennonite churches. I’ve seen Anabaptist women wear head coverings, and also Messianic. Amish women as well wear head coverings. Catholic nuns wear habits and Muslim women wear burqas.

There’s different cultures today. But what’s time got to do with it? These cultures still exist. They didn’t all go extinct. I don’t understand how time changed things. I’ve even seen plenty of secular worldly women wearing stylish hats for the sake of fashion. They have no desire to obey the Bible, but they still cover their head for the sake of being fashionable. I don’t understand how it’s not a part of our culture. How did our time period make all women’s hats disappear?
 
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How is it not a part of our culture today? What does time periods have to do with it? I’ve seen Apostolic women wearing head coverings, as well as women from the Mennonite churches. I’ve seen Anabaptist women wear head coverings, and also Messianic. Amish women as well wear head coverings. Catholic nuns wear habits and Muslim women wear burqas.

There’s different cultures today. But what’s time got to do with it? These cultures still exist. They didn’t all go extinct. I don’t understand how time changed things. I’ve even seen plenty of secular worldly women wearing stylish hats for the sake of fashion. They have no desire to obey the Bible, but they still cover their head for the sake of being fashionable. I don’t understand how it’s not a part of our culture. How did our time period make all women’s hats disappear?

Those women you listed are being legalistic.
 

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Those women you listed are being legalistic.

How so?

(True Story)
When I was a kid, there was a trouble-maker in my 3rd grade class named Craig who was wearing a baseball cap in class. The teacher told him to take it off.

He said, “Why?”

The teacher said that baseball caps are not allowed.

So he pointed to a girl in the class. Her name was Holly. She was wearing a girly blue hat with a yellow flower on the front.

Craig pointed to Holly and asked the teacher, “How come SHE gets to wear a hat?”

The teacher said, “Girls are allowed to wear hats. Boys are not.”

He said, “That’s not fair!”


Now, after that incident, I never tried to wear a baseball hat to school, because I knew it was against the rules.

But if I came into school wearing a baseball cap and my teacher tells me to take it off, am I being legalistic for doing what she says? Or am I just being obedient?

Why is it then, that when we obey our teacher, we’re being good children, but when I remove my hat during a prayer meeting, because God’s Word tells me to, then suddenly I’m being legalistic???

I remember wearing a baseball cap to the dinner table. My mom told me to take it off. I didn’t ask why. I didn’t complain. I didn’t try to justify the fact that I can still eat perfectly fine with a hat on. I just did what she said and took it off.

Why am I a “good boy” for obeying my mom, but legalistic for obeying God’s Word?
 

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How is it not a part of our culture today? What does time periods have to do with it? I’ve seen Apostolic women wearing head coverings, as well as women from the Mennonite churches. I’ve seen Anabaptist women wear head coverings, and also Messianic. Amish women as well wear head coverings. Catholic nuns wear habits and Muslim women wear burqas.

There’s different cultures today. But what’s time got to do with it? These cultures still exist. They didn’t all go extinct. I don’t understand how time changed things. I’ve even seen plenty of secular worldly women wearing stylish hats for the sake of fashion. They have no desire to obey the Bible, but they still cover their head for the sake of being fashionable. I don’t understand how it’s not a part of our culture. How did our time period make all women’s hats disappear?
Obviously, the point concerned the obligatory use of head coverings as a religious principle, not a free choice made for the sake of fashion.

And none of the church groups that you mentioned (and I highlighted in the text) were in existence when the New Testament regulation you refer to was made known. They all developed many centuries later. (Catholic nuns and sisters often or always go bare-headed, depending on the religious order to which they belong).
 

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Obviously, the point concerned the obligatory use of head coverings as a religious principle, not a free choice made for the sake of fashion.

And none of the church groups that you mentioned (and I highlighted in the text) were in existence when the New Testament regulation you refer to was made known. They all developed many centuries later. (Catholic nuns and sisters often or always go bare-headed, depending on the religious order to which they belong).

Scripture says,

“Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven.”

“For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man.”
~1 Corinthians 11:4-5,7 (ESV)

I, as a man, have no problem taking my hat off in a prayer meeting, out of respect and obedience to God’s command. Am I being legalistic? Or am I just obeying what God’s Word plainly says to do? We’re not talking about Old Testament dietary laws. We’re talking about New Testament commands for the Church of Christ. Have you ever seen a cowboy movie where there’s a funeral, and the cowboy removes his hat out of respect for the dead? Or maybe a western where men remove their hats while prayers are offered in church? It’s where we get the idiom “hats off to you.” How is this not a part of our culture? Of course our culture today has strayed from God’s commands. But America was founded by deeply religious people, who desired to establish a Christian nation. And we can see traces of it ingrained in our culture and history. And I don’t see how there’s an excuse to disobey God just because our culture falls away and backslides into debauchery and sin.
 

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Those women you listed are being legalistic.

Do you think that Selena Gomez was being legalistic for wearing this head covering?


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Those women you listed are being legalistic.

Do you think that Brittany Spears was being legalistic for wearing this head covering?




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What is your definition?
This is interesting.
 

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Let me know if you need the definition of legalistic.

I think it would be good to get a definition of legalistic. Because if a female celebrity wears a hat out of her love for being fashionable, then that’s not legalistic. But if a Christian woman wears a hat out of love for God then that’s suddenly legalistic?

Love for fashion is OK but love for God is not?
 

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Why does any of this matter? Didn’t Paul say that long hair is given to woman as a covering? That’s all Eve had in the garden. Isn’t that good enough?

I agree with Lammchen on this. It was just a cultural thing at that time.

Paul also said to greet the brethren with a holy kiss. But I’m not going to do that. Men in Russia kiss each other on the cheek, because that’s their culture. But it’s not ours, and I’m not doing it.

Same way with head coverings. Just a part of that culture.
 
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