Is Sabbath, Saturday or Sunday.

[OneIsTheWord]

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Part #1 Sabbath
A few years ago, the Church asks the congregation in a bible study, to do a study on the Hebrew Sabbath.
This study was to show the true God, which the initial name of the Hebrew name of Lord JAH

Psalms 68:4 (KJV)Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.

In Matt 28:16-20 (KJV)Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in the earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

According to the book of Revelation, there will be two calls to worship, and two claims on authority.

In Dan 7:25 (KJV) And he shall speak great words against the Highest, and shall wear out the saints of the Highest, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Note: In this Case changing Divine Law

In Lucius Ferraris Prompta Bibliotheca

The {Bishop of Rome} is of so great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws…. The {Bishop of Rome} can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent {representative} of God upon the earth. Artcle “papa” II vol. VI p. 29

Rev. Peter Geierman

Q. Which is the Sabbath Day?

A. Saturday is the Sabbath Day.

Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?

A. We observe because the Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.

The Convert’s Catechism of Doctrine

The Catholic Encyclopedia

The Church, after changing the day of rest from the Jewish Sabbath of the seventh day of the week to the first, made the Third-day commandment refer to Sunday as the day to be kept holy as the Lord’s day.
See Vol. 4 page 153

American Catholic Quarterly Review January 1883

Protestantism, in discarding the authority of the church, has no good reason for its Sunday theory, and ought logically to keep Saturday with the Jews

Canon and Tradition
The authority of the church could not, therefore, be bound to the authority of the Scriptures because the church had changed the Sabbath to Sunday not by the command of Christ, but by its own authority page 263

Our Question today is?
Can Sunday-sacredness be supported from the Bible or is it merely a relic of Church tradition, a command of the Roman Church-State?

Part #2 Sabbath
The Ten commandments the eighth commandment Remember!
Ex 20:8-11 (KJV) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it, thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it.

Because the sixth day is Sabbath Day!

Why?
Protestantism, in discarding the authority of the church, has no good reason for its Sunday theory, and ought logically to keep Saturday for the Jews.
But your LORD thy God Sanctified the six-day to set apart” for God’s people. Not just for the Jews but for its entire people.

Rev 14:6-7 (KJV) And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

The fourth commandment

Ex 20:11 (KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

In Ezek 20:10-26 (KJV)Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man does, he shall even live in them. Moreover, also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man does, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them. But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted before the heathen, in whose sight I brought them out. Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, flowing with milk and honey, which is the glory of all lands; Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols. Nevertheless, mine eye spared them from destroying them, neither did I make an end of them in the wilderness. 18 But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols: I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them; And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God. Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man does, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness. Nevertheless, I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I brought them forth. I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries; Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols. Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live; And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the LORD.

 

[OneIsTheWord]

Sabbath
The Ten commandments the eighth commandment Remember!
Ex 20:8-11 (KJV) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it, thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it.

Because the sixth day is Sabbath Day!

Why?
Protestantism, in discarding the authority of the church, has no good reason for its Sunday theory, and ought logically to keep Saturday for the Jews.
But your LORD thy God Sanctified the six-day to set apart” for God’s people. Not just for the Jews but for its entire people.

Rev 14:6-7 (KJV) And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

The fourth commandment

Ex 20:11 (KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

In Ezek 20:10-26 (KJV)Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man does, he shall even live in them. Moreover, also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man does, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them. But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted before the heathen, in whose sight I brought them out. Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, flowing with milk and honey, which is the glory of all lands; Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols. Nevertheless, mine eye spared them from destroying them, neither did I make an end of them in the wilderness. 18 But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols: I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them; And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God. Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man does, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness. Nevertheless, I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I brought them forth. I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries; Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols. Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live; And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the LORD.

part #4 Sabbath
By worshiping the God of Sabbath, you will know there is the true God because it shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.

Any other day but Saturday is worshiping, is manmade, or of Satan.

The Apostolic Creed: Oh Lord Almighty, Thou hast created the world by Jesus Christ, and hath appointed the Sabbath in memory thereof.

Col 1:14-20 (KJV) the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him, all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth or things in heaven.

John said,
Rev 1:10 (KJV) I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, The Sabbath day!

Matt 24:16-21 (KJV) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take anything out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Because in the future, Daniel the prophet warns us, we read
Dan 7:21-28 (KJV) I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints and prevailed against them; Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the Highest, and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them, and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. And he shall speak great words against the highest, and shall wear out the saints of the highest, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Highest, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him. Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.

 

[OneIsTheWord]

Do men change?
Matthew 15:8-9 (KJV) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth and honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

 

[OneIsTheWord]

Sorry guys could not put all information all at once

 

[Andrew]

The Sabbath according to western understanding is Friday sundown to Saturday sundown, darkness proceeds the new day.
Jesus says in the Temple that He IS the light and often rebukes the priesthoods interpretation of Sabbath according to the Law. In Noahs day there was no Law of the Sabbath to observe, this was only given to the Israelites after they left Egypt. The Law is fulfilled in Christ who is our rest, as Noah was "rest" in his time

 

[Josiah]

Well....

Once again, "Seventh Day" Christians have repeated the old claim...

But not one verse that says, "Thou shalt worship exclusively on Saturday and art forbidden to do so on any other day." Indeed, there are mandated OT ceremonies that didn't happen on a Saturday.

In the OT and in the NT, there is no verse that states, "Thou shalt worship exclusively on Saturday and art forbidden to do so on any other day." Those who THINK such a verse exists will refuse to worship at Christmas but this is because they think that verse exists. It does not.

I understand that the JEWS (who are not Christians) began to regularly worship publicly (rather than privately as a family) during the Babylonian Captivity... and CHOSE to worship on Saturday because Saturday was the day God Himself celebrated His greatest deed: Creation. Christians changed this to Sunday because this is the day God did something far greater: Salvation. Every Sunday is "a little Easter."





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[Matthew ten Verseight]

Jesus said that Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

Hi. Yes, Jesus said this:

Mar_2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for (the) man, and not (the) man for the sabbath:

Mar 2:27 και ελεγεν αυτοις το σαββατον δια τον ανθρωπον εγενετο ουχ ο ανθρωπος δια το σαββατον

May I ask you a question about this statement?

Question, Who is "the man" (τον ανθρωπον) that "the sabbath" (το σαββατον) was "made" (εγενετο) "for" (δια) that Jesus is speaking of?

 

[rstrats]

The Sabbath is Saturday. We Christians worship on Sunday, however, because that is the day on which the Lord rose from the grave. All of this is verified by Bible verses. The end.

Albion,
re: "We Christians worship on Sunday, however, because that is the day on which the Lord rose from the grave."

It just seems odd that scripture is silent with regard to anyone observing the 1st day of the week in honor of the resurrection.


re: "All of this is verified by Bible verses."

Actually, only one verse - Mark 16:9 as it is translated in the KJV and similar versions - places the resurrection on the 1 day of the week.

 

[Albion]

Albion,
re: "We Christians worship on Sunday, however, because that is the day on which the Lord rose from the grave."

It just seems odd that scripture is silent with regard to anyone observing the 1st day of the week in honor of the resurrection.

Well, scripture is not silent about this.

See Acts 20:7 which even opponents of Sunday worship will agree suggests a worship service and a regular one. Also Revelation 1:10.

 

[rstrats]

Well, scripture is not silent about this.

See Acts 20:7 which even opponents of Sunday worship will agree suggests a worship service and a regular one. Also Revelation 1:10.

Acts 20:7 says nothing about a worship service or that they were meeting in observance or in honor of the resurrection.

Nor does Revelation 1:10 say anything about a meeting on the 1st day of the week much less about an observance of the resurrection.

 

[tango]

Hi. Yes, Jesus said this:

Mar_2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for (the) man, and not (the) man for the sabbath:

Mar 2:27 και ελεγεν αυτοις το σαββατον δια τον ανθρωπον εγενετο ουχ ο ανθρωπος δια το σαββατον

May I ask you a question about this statement?

Question, Who is "the man" (τον ανθρωπον) that "the sabbath" (το σαββατον) was "made" (εγενετο) "for" (δια) that Jesus is speaking of?

We could speculate endlessly about this.

The way you've worded it opens the possibility to suggest that "the man" is singular and that every single Sabbath rule continues to apply to everyone except that specific individual. We could equally look back to the OT concept of "love God, love each other" and argue that the purpose of the Sabbath was to provide for a day of rest rather than slavishly refusing to do anything useful because "a day of rest" is taken to refer to an absolute prohibition on doing anything on a very specific day.

It's one thing to say that a farmer should refrain from tilling his fields on the Sabbath because the work could easily be scheduled for the day before or the day after. It's easy to make a case that an employer shouldn't schedule so much work that their staff are expected to work seven days a week. It's a different proposition to argue that an ER doctor should refuse to see patients on the Sabbath - they weren't there the day before and the day later they will be dead if they aren't treated (if you prefer not to use a modern construct like an ER/ICU feel free to use the example Jesus used about how someone with a sheep that fell into a pit would lift it out on the Sabbath). Hence we come into the question of whether the intention of Sabbath was to ensure that man took a break from working, or whether the intention was that man took a very specifically timed break from working.

The fact Jesus said "it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath" doesn't leave a whole lot of doubt in my mind.

 

[Albion]

Acts 20:7 says nothing about a worship service or that they were meeting in observance or in honor of the resurrection.

Bible experts generally disagree with you. There is little doubt that the reference to the breaking of bread is a reference to the Eucharist, and the issue of the first day being the day of Christ's resurrection as well as it being called "the Lord's Day" by Christians is well established in Scripture.

 

[rstrats]

There is little doubt that the reference to the breaking of bread is a reference to the Eucharist, and the issue of the first day being the day of Christ's resurrection as well as it being called "the Lord's Day" by Christians is well established in Scripture.

But even if the breaking of bread mentioned always did refer to the Lord’s Supper - and there is nothing in scripture which says that it does - it had nothing to do with placing a special emphasis on the first day of the week, because - as has been previously mentioned - Acts 2:46 says that they broke bread every day.


And no where does scripture ever refer to the first day of the week as the "Lord's Day".

 

[Albion]

But even if the breaking of bread mentioned always did refer to the Lord’s Supper - and there is nothing in scripture which says that it does - it had nothing to do with placing a special emphasis on the first day of the week, because - as has been previously mentioned - Acts 2:46 says that they broke bread every day.

You're equating the communal meal, which congregations at the time regularly participated in, with the sacred meal, the Lord's Supper.

And no where does scripture ever refer to the first day of the week as the "Lord's Day".

Revelation 1:10 does,

 

[Matthew ten Verseight]

We could speculate endlessly about this.

No, we couldn't. The scripture defines who "the man" is.

Who was the Sabbath made for according to scripture?

"...The sabbath was made for man..." [Mark 2:27p].

"The sabbath", this is the 7th Day of the LORD thy GOD [Greek: "σαββατον" from "σάββατον, sabbaton", see also the so-called LXX [hexapla] Exodus 20:8-11 and directly compare vs. 10-11 to Genesis 2:2-3, and compare also so-called LXX Exodus 16:23];​

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"made", this directly references Creation [Greek: "εγενετο" from "γίνομαι, ginomai", see also Genesis 1:3,5-6,8-9,11,13,15,19-20,23-24,30-31, 2:4,7 so-called LXX for "εγενετο"];​

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"for (the) man", this directly references Adam at Creation [Greek: "ανθρωπο" from "ἄνθρωπος, anthrōpos", see also Genesis 1:26-27; 2:5,7-8,15,18,24 so-called LXX for "ανθρωπο"]​

Yes, there is the Adam at Genesis, but it is really the greater Adam:

Mar_2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for (the) man, and not (the) man for the sabbath:​

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Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:​

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Rom_5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.​

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Rom_5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)​

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1Ti_2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;​

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1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.​

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1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.​

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1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.​

Did you see who the Sabbath was made for? All in Adam the first (humanity), the natural man, and especially all in Adam the last, Jesus Christ, the spiritual man, for the Law of God (Exodus 20:1-17; Romans 7:7) is spiritual (Romans 7:14).

Part 1 - The Creator Of Rest

In the beginning, on the seventh day after all His work, the LORD God did rest,​

and turning to the man there with Him, saying, this is what I have blessed;​

and down through the long ages, it would remain the gift from Heaven,​

holy and sanctified, the day the Creator spent with man - seven;​

a vast temple of sacred time, enclosed for the faithful steward to keep,​

knowing the Shepherd worked tirelessly, to have a place for all His precious sheep;​

peace-filled and tranquil, calm and nothing over to be stressed,​

Oh!, what special Day with our Father!, this Sabbath of His glorious rest.​

Part 1 - The Creator Of Rest

 

[Matthew ten Verseight]

Acts 20:7 says nothing about a worship service or that they were meeting in observance or in honor of the resurrection.

Nor does Revelation 1:10 say anything about a meeting on the 1st day of the week much less about an observance of the resurrection.

Correct.

Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

This is an evening meeting, after Sabbath was over, for we see lights, and evening meals being eaten, and timeframe of preaching to Midnight and beyond. In fact, Paul travels some 19-21ish miles (from Troas) to the next city, Assos, by foot during the morning time. There is no “Sunday” service here. The day, scripturally begins at “evening” (Genesis 1, etc), and thus it is technically what the western mind would call “Saturday night”.

There is no continual pattern here of a weekly first day meeting, as it is a special meeting and farewell for Paul, who is forever leaving them, and because of the events of Eutychus.

The disciples eat a common meal, as they did every day, for there is no mention of the “cup”, “Lord's table or supper”, “footwashing”, “fruit of the vine”, "towel", "basin", "service", etc. The phrase in koine Greek is again demonstrative that the 7th day the sabbath is the culmination of the week, “εν δε τη μια των σαββατων”, as every single “first [day]” text reveals. There is no special designation for the day. There is no continual pattern. This is a one-off event amidst a series of one-off events.

Even if we assume a pattern, it is at night time, held until midnight and beyond with at least two meals, with the minister taking a 19 mile or so walk in the morning. Do they really follow this as an example in their practice, and if not, why not?

If one really desires to study Acts 20:7, they must begin in Acts 13 and read all those chapters to get the best picture. This can be shown as needful, but it is much longer in explanation. In short: (Acts 20:7, is a final farewell visit by Paul, who was going around "confirming the churches", and always preached on Sabbath (Read Acts 13 (all), see also Acts 15, Acts 16:8,11, 20:5,6; Troas - 2 Corinthians 2:12; 2 Timothy 4:13), and in this instance, after Sabbath was complete, they met again and continued in fellowship and preaching, and had a final farewell.

Just in the book of Acts alone, there are over 78 sabbaths explicitly recorded.

Acts 13:14,27,42,44, 15:21, 16:13, 17:2, 18:4, (20:6, 21:4, 28:14; Paul always waited seven days, so that he could keep the Sabbath with fellow Jews, and Proselytes (see Acts 2:10; 13:26,42-43,44,45-46,47-49, 14:1,2,15-16, 15:17,19,21, 17:17) and preach the gospel upon that sacred day (Acts 17:2), just as Jesus had; Luke 4:16-21).

 

[Albion]

There is so much wrong with that analysis. For one, Paul's role in that particular service was special, but that's all that you have shown us.

And if you were right, I'd expect the experts on Scripture and history to be backing you up, but they don't. Just lackeys of the Roman Catholic Church (which has nothing to do with this)...isn't that the explanation for everything?

 

[Matthew ten Verseight]

You're equating the communal meal, which congregations at the time regularly participated in, with the sacred meal, the Lord's Supper.

Revelation 1:10 does,

No it does not. Here is the context (local and global) of Revelation 1:10:

The "Lord's day" according to scripture, is the 7th day, the sabbath day of the Lord.

Genesis 2:1-3,4 - 'the seventh day', 'God', 'day', 'the LORD God' [… God [the LORD] … day …]​

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Exodus 16:23 - "to morrow [the seventh day] is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD', 'to day' [… the LORD … day …]​

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Exodus 16:25 - 'to day [the seventh day]; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day' [... the LORD … day …]​

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Exodus 20:8-11 - 'the sabbath day', 'the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God', 'the sabbath day' [… the LORD … day …]​

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Exodus 31:15 - 'the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD ... the sabbath day' [… the LORD … day …]​

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Exodus 35:2,3 - 'the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD', 'the sabbath day' [… the LORD … day …]​

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Leviticus 23:3 - 'the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD'​

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Deuteronomy 5:12,14 – 'the LORD', 'the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God' [… the LORD … day …]​

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Psalms 92:1 - 'A Psalm or Song for the sabbath day. It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD'​

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Isaiah 56:6 - 'Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath [day] from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant' (context new covenant) [… the LORD … [day] …]​

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Isaiah 58:13 - 'the sabbath ... my [the LORD's] holy day ... the holy [day] of the Lord' [… [the LORD's] … day …]​

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Isaiah 66:22,23 – 'the LORD', 'one sabbath [day] to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD' [… the LORD … [day] …]​

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Jeremiah 17:21 - 'saith the LORD... on the sabbath day' [… the LORD … day …]​

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Matthew 12:8 - 'the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day' [… the Lord … day …]​

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Mark 2:28 - 'the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day' [… the Lord … day …]​

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Luke 6:5 - 'the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath [day]' [… the Lord … [day] …]​

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Revelation 1:10 - 'the Lord's day'​

Some have said that "the Lord's day" of Revelation 1:10 is not any particular day of the week (seventh day or first day), but that it is to represent the eschatological "Day of the LORD", or "Judgment Day", but this is not possible from the context itself.

Revelation says that John while on the Isle of Patmos for (because of_ believing and living according to) the "word of God", and for "the testimony of Jesus Christ" (vss 1,9) was "in the Spirit" (Holy Spirit, which is who gave the vision to John, see vs 4, "the Seven spirits" (7 being the representative number of completeness, and ties into the language of the Sanctuary/Tabernacle/Temple of God as the 7 branch candlesticks, see vss 12,20) "on" (a particular day of the week (either 1,2,3,4,5,6,7) that John was presently experiencing to have been given this vision "the Lord's day".

Another reason that the phrase "the Lord's day" cannot refer to the eschatological "Day of the LORD" is because that which John sees in Revelation 1, does not refer to anything that deals with the eschatological events of "Day of the LORD", except for vs 7, which was yet future to John's day. John sees and hears 'Jesus' (vss 10-20) this is true, but Jesus is not seen coming in the cloud of glory, but is seen "in the midst of the seven candlesticks" (vs 13), which is in the Holy Place of the Heavenly Temple (Hebrews 8:5; 9:23; Revelation 11:19, 15:5), and even dressed, not as KING of Kings and LORD of Lords (Revelation 19:11-16), but as a HighPriest is dressed (vss 13-15) which means tht Jesus was still then ministering in Heaven, while the Gospel was still going forward that men might be saved. When Jesus changes garments to being dressed as KING of Kings and LORD of Lords, coming with the clouds (angels) of Heaven in the fullness of glory, the Gospel is no longer effective, and His ministration there in Heaven is over.

Another reason that the phrase "the Lord's day" cannot refer to the eschatological "Day of the LORD" is because John is not merely shown the "future", but as it is said in the very context of Revelation 1 - he is shown the past, present and future:

For instance Revelation 1:7, shows the future coming of Jesus:

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Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.​

Yet that was not all. Consider:

Rev 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;​

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[1] past - thou hast seen​

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[2] present - the things which are​

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[3] future - the things which shall be hereafter​

So, John was definitely not "in" or "on" the "Day of the LORD" (which was still future to his own day, and yea even ours), when receiving the vision.

So, just a recap.

[1] Jesus's dress precludes "the Lord's day" from being "the Day of the LORD".​

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[2] Jesus' location precludes "the Lord's day" from being "the Day of the LORD".​

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[3] the immediate context of what John was shown precludes "the Lord's day" from being "the Day of the LORD".​

Let's consider a fourth reason. The language itself.​

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[Matthew ten Verseight]

You're equating the communal meal, which congregations at the time regularly participated in, with the sacred meal, the Lord's Supper.

Revelation 1:10 does,

No it does not. Here is the context (local and global) of Revelation 1:10:

Revelation 1:10:

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,​

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Rev 1:10 εγενομην εν πνευματι εν τη κυριακη ημερα και ηκουσα οπισω μου φωνην μεγαλην ως σαλπιγγος​

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Rev 1:10 εγενομηνG1096 V-2ADI-1S ενG1722 PREP πνευματιG4151 N-DSN ενG1722 PREP τηG3588 T-DSF κυριακηG2960 A-DSF ημεραG2250 N-DSF καιG2532 CONJ ηκουσαG191 V-AAI-1S οπισωG3694 ADV μουG1473 P-1GS φωνηνG5456 N-ASF μεγαληνG3173 A-ASF ωςG5613 ADV σαλπιγγοςG4536 N-GSF​

The word "κυριακη" (translit. "kuriake") is an Adjective - Dative - Singular - Feminine. This means it is being used as a 'possessive' ("of", see 1 Corinthians 11:20, "the Lord's supper"), which means the "day" in context belongs to "the Lord". It is literally "the Lord's (belonging to) day". This means, that the "day" in context is uniquely "the Lord's" out of all the 7 days of the week, for the day under consideration is that which exists within the week, as a day which repeats weekly. This is extremely important, as those who incorrectly assume it to mean "the first [day] of the week" in lieu of Jesus' resurrection, cannot get a weekly occurrence out of a one-time event, in fulfilment of typology of the Firstfruit/Wavesheaf in Leviticus 23:9-14, as made known in 1 Corinthians 15:20,23..

This is not as the phrase "day of the Lord" (ἡμέρα κυρίου) which is written in the genitive masculine case (see 2 Peter 3:10, etc, and also so called septuaginta uses).

In Isaiah 58:13 we read of "the Lord's holy day", which refers to the seventh day of the week, the sabbath of the Lord.

In the rest of Isaiah, when he refers, by inspiration of the Holy Ghost, to "the Day of the LORD", it is always in a differing phrase and context.

See:

Isaiah 2:12, 13:6,9, 34:8​

Others say it like this:

"the day of the LORD"​

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Jeremiah 46:10​

Lamentations 2:22​

Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3​

Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31, 3:14​

Amos 5:18,20​

Obadiah 1:15​

Zephaniah 1:7,8,14,18, 2:2,3, 14:1​

Malachi 4:5​

Acts 2:20​

1 Corinthians 5:5​

2 Corinthians 1:14​

1 Thessalonians 5:2​

2 Peter 3:10​

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"the day of their calamity"​

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Deuteronomy 32:35​

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"the day of vengeance"​

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Proverbs 6:34​

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"the day of the LORD's anger"​

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Lamentations 2:22​

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"day of the LORD's vengeance"​

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Isaiah 34:8​

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"the day of vengeance of our God"​

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Isaiah 61:2​

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"the day of vengeance"​

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Isaiah 63:4​

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"the day of the LORD's wrath"​

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Zephaniah 1:18​

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"Day of God"​

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2 Peter 3:12​

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"great day of God Almighty"​

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Revelation 16:14​

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The Day Of The LORD:​

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Deuteronomy 31:17-18, 1 Samuel 3:12, 8:18, 1 Kings 22:25, 22:35, 2 Chronicles 18:24, 18:34, Job 3:3-4, 21:30, Psalms 110:5, Isaiah 2:11-12, 17, 20,3:7, 3:18, 4:1-2, 5:30, 7:18, 21, 23, 10:20, 27, 32, 11:10-11, 16, 12:1, 4, 13:6, 9, 13, 17:4, 7, 9, 19:18-19,21, 23-24, 20:6, 22:12, 20,25, 23:15, 24:21, 25:9, 26:1, 27:1-2, 12-13, 28:5, 19, 29:18 30:23, 25, 31:7, 34:8, 52:6, 58:5, 61:2, 63:4, 66:8, Jeremiah 1:10, 4:9, 25:33, 30:8, 31:6, 39:17, 49:22, 26, Lamentations 1:12, 2:1, 21-22, Ezekiel 7:7, 12, 19, 13:5, 22:24, 24:27, 27:27, 29:21, 30:3, 9, 18, 38:14, 19, 39:11, 22, 48:35, Hosea 1:5, 11, 2:16, 18, 21, 5:9, 9:5 , Joel 1:15, 2:1-2, 11, 2:31, 3:14, 18, Amos 1:14, 2:16, 3:14, 5:18, 20, 8:3, 9-10, 13, 9:11, Obadiah 1:8, 15, Micah 2:4, 3:6, 4:6, 5:10, 7:11-12, Nahum 3:17, Habakkuk 3:16, Zephaniah 1:7, 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 18, 2:2-3, 3:8, 11, 16, Zechariah 2:11, 3:9, 10, 9:16, 11:11, 12:3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 13:1, 2, 4, 14:1, 3, 14:4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 13, 20, 21, Malachi 3:2, 17, 4:1, 3, 5, Matthew 7:22, 10:15, 11:22, 24, 12:36, 24:36, 50, 25:13, Mark 6:11,13:32, Luke 6:23, 10:12, 17:24, 30, 31, 21:34, John 6:39, 40, 44, 54, 8:56, 11:24, 14:20, 16:23, 26, Romans 2:5, 16, 13:12, 1 Corinthians 1:8, 3:13, 5:5, 2 Corinthians 1:14, Philippians 1:6, 10, 2:16, 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 4, 2 Thessalonians 1:10, 2:2, 3, 2 Timothy 1:12, 18, 4:8, Hebrews 10:25, James 5:5, 1 Peter 2:12, 2 Peter 2:9, 3:7, 10, 12, 1 John 4:17, Jude 1:6, and Revelation 6:17, 16:14, 18:8.​

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[Matthew ten Verseight]

You're equating the communal meal, which congregations at the time regularly participated in, with the sacred meal, the Lord's Supper.

Revelation 1:10 does,

No it does not. Here is the context (local and global) of Revelation 1:10:

In Latin, we see it similarly used in Exodus 20 (Latin is without the definite article, as Latin does not use definite articles):

Rev 1:10 fui in spiritu in dominica die et audivi post me vocem magnam tamquam tubae​

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Exo 20:8 memento ut diem sabbati sanctifices​

Exo 20:9 sex diebus operaberis et facies omnia opera tua​

Exo 20:10 septimo autem die sabbati Domini Dei tui non facies omne opus tu et filius tuus et filia tua servus tuus et ancilla tua iumentum tuum et advena qui est intra portas tuas​

Exo 20:11 sex enim diebus fecit Dominus caelum et terram et mare et omnia quae in eis sunt et requievit in die septimo idcirco benedixit Dominus diei sabbati et sanctificavit eum​

Which is akin to Genesis' "God's day":

Gen 2:1 igitur perfecti sunt caeli et terra et omnis ornatus eorum​

Gen 2:2 conplevitque Deus die septimo opus suum quod fecerat et requievit die septimo ab universo opere quod patrarat​

Gen 2:3 et benedixit diei septimo et sanctificavit illum quia in ipso cessaverat ab omni opere suo quod creavit Deus ut faceret​

Whereas the differing apocalyptic day, "the day of the Lord" in Latin is "dies Domini" as in Zephaniah 1:14:

Zep 1:14 iuxta est dies Domini magnus iuxta et velox nimis vox diei Domini amara tribulabitur ibi fortis​

In Isaiah 58:13, we read of a "day" that "the Lord" specifically calls "my day":

Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

In many translations of Isaiah 58:13 we read that the 7th day, the sabbath of the Lord, is said to be "the Lord's holy day", with the word holy being another adjective, while the "Lord's" is possessive. - /Isaiah 58:13 - Bible Gateway

Thus when reading Isaiah 58:13 with simple pronoun substitution, it would read "... the ... [Lord's] day ...", just as it does in Exodus 20:8-11.

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.​

Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:​

Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:​

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.​

In Genesis we see why this day is uniquely "Gods'", or "the Lord's" day, for in it God rested. This is the reason Jesus could say:

Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.​

For in that He created in Genesis, and rested, Colossians 1:16.

Further, we can see some honest persons, among the many commentators that like to simply assume their apriori into the text, or to place future definition back into the text, from non-scriptural materials.

Peter Pett's commentary makes this accurate note:​

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"... Sunday is not called ‘the Lord’s day’ (he kyriake hemera) anywhere in Scripture ..." .​

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Dr. Thomas Constable likewise states the same truth:​

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"... The New Testament writers never called Sunday the Lord"s day elsewhere in Scripture. ..." .​

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Richard Chenevix Trench has stated on record, and accurately that:​

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"... “Some have assumed, from this passage, that ἡμέρα κυριακή was a designation of Sunday already familiar among Christians. This, however, seems a mistake ..." .​

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Likewise, Foy E Wallace states:​

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"... It is not a reference to the first day of the week ..." .​

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