Vaccine Hesitancy

[JRT]

This worrying ---- to this date about 33% of Republicans have been vaccinated compared to about 67% of Democrats. Moreover 43% of Republicans claim to have no intention at all of ever getting a shot. Has the party fallen so badly for anti-science, false news and conspiracy theories? This is a large enough portion of the population that the achievement of herd immunity is seriously compromised. This also affects the easing of covid restrictions, especially in those states (mostly Republican) that have few restrictions anyhow.

The term "death wish" comes to mind.

 

[Forgiven1]

Where are you getting this information?

That being asked, I think the hesitancy comes from the rush to develop and market the vaccine. They want it to be out longer than it has been before getting it.

 

[mailmandan]

Where are you getting this information?

That being asked, I think the hesitancy comes from the rush to develop and market the vaccine. They want it to be out longer than it has been before getting it.

Exactly! I'm in no hurry to get the vaccine. It's all still too new.

 

[JRT]

Exactly! I'm in no hurry to get the vaccine. It's all still too new.

Well, I get my first shot on Tuesday and as far as I cam concerned it is none too soon. I value my life. Because of my age I am in a vulnerable group.

 

[Stravinsk]

I wonder why it is worrying to you. Isn't the vaccine supposed to protect you from the virus, and if so, why would it matter if you came into contact with an un-vaccinated person?

Look, per some of our conversations, I've already marked you as the sort of person that lets TV think for them, blindly follows authority, and in general is too afraid to voice an independent thought if it might mean social disapproval, but I could be wrong. Maybe you do retain your God given ability to do some simple reasoning.

By the way, I bet you never looked at what I asked you to in the other thread. Here it is again, straight from the World Health Organization International Website:

https://apps.who.int/gpmb/assets/annual_report/GPMB_annualreport_2019.pdf

Page 10, bullet point 2. Published in 2019.

This is a coincidence, right? Because conspiracy theories (esp in American garbage corporate media) are frowned on. Tell me you don't get your arguments from television and radio and that you actually think for yourself.

 

[mailmandan]

I know multiple people who have had some very unpleasant side effects from the vaccine and one of my wife's co-workers died 3 weeks after receiving the vaccine. I will only consider getting the vaccine if things reach the point to where you can't travel on a plane, stay at a hotel or resort, go to a restaurant or entertainment event or even go to work without it. Everyone else can do what they want, but it's my body, my choice.

 

[psalms 91]

I got moderna and only had mild side effects 1st shot sore arm, 2nd shot next day flu like symtoms for a few hours. Not a problem and for those who dont want it I say let them alone and nature wiill take its course

 

[Jazzy]

I've had 2 doses of the Pfizer Vaccine.

First one - I had pain around the injection site.

Second one - Had a splitting headache, fever, chills and extreme fatigue. After 48 hours passed, all of the above left but I still had a slight headache. That was March 22nd and I feel fine now.

Just want to say to anyone reading this thread, just because I had the side effects does not mean you'll you will too.

 

[Lamb]

This worrying ---- to this date about 33% of Republicans have been vaccinated compared to about 67% of Democrats. Moreover 43% of Republicans claim to have no intention at all of ever getting a shot. Has the party fallen so badly for anti-science, false news and conspiracy theories? This is a large enough portion of the population that the achievement of herd immunity is seriously compromised. This also affects the easing of covid restrictions, especially in those states (mostly Republican) that have few restrictions anyhow.

The term "death wish" comes to mind.

Since they aren't asking when registering for the vaccine about political party...where do these stats come from?

 

[Lamb]

Oh, and I guess I should mention that even though I have heard Republicans talk about hesitancy on Facebook, I still see them getting their shots. They just don't brag about it like their Democrat friends/relatives (from what I see on my Facebook feed)? Maybe that's where the numbers are coming from? Facebook posts? hmm

 

[Albion]

This worrying ---- to this date about 33% of Republicans have been vaccinated compared to about 67% of Democrats. Moreover 43% of Republicans claim to have no intention at all of ever getting a shot. Has the party fallen so badly for anti-science, false news and conspiracy theories?

Obviously not. IF these figures are accurate (and how could they be accurate unless every Republican and every Democrat had been identified by party and questioned in addition??)...

What it shows is that Republicans are less inclined to take at face value and to believe what government agencies claim, whereas Democrats are more likely to think that big government is always perfectly well-informed and interested only in having what's best for the people.

 

[Bluezone777]

I hardly call someone getting blood clots from a vaccine and one of those people dying from said blood clots a conspiracy. There is real legit concerns about this vaccine and no one should be looked down upon for having real concerns about it especially when it's relatively new and not much is known about what it will do to someone.

1976 swine flu outbreak - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's not like the government hasn't screwed up an epidemic response before and that was only about 44 years ago. I wonder if many of the people hesistant to take this vaccine were around in the seventies during that swine flu outbreak?

 

[Albion]

I know multiple people who have had some very unpleasant side effects from the vaccine and one of my wife's co-workers died 3 weeks after receiving the vaccine. I will only consider getting the vaccine if things reach the point to where you can't travel on a plane, stay at a hotel or resort, go to a restaurant or entertainment event or even go to work without it. Everyone else can do what they want, but it's my body, my choice.

Sorry, Dan, but that response is permissible only when you are agreeing with the government.

For example, if women want to abort their children. Then it's right and proper for them to say "It's my body! I have rights!" In this case, however, you are claiming that because it's your body and you have a right to decide what to do with it, you are disagreeing with the government.

That's how it works in Libland.

 

[pinacled]

Since they aren't asking when registering for the vaccine about political party...where do these stats come from?

The plausible explaination is that vaccine sites are giving personal information away which is a federal crime.
Unless the participant of the vaccine signed a waver

 

[pinacled]

I hardly call someone getting blood clots from a vaccine and one of those people dying from said blood clots a conspiracy. There is real legit concerns about this vaccine and no one should be looked down upon for having real concerns about it especially when it's relatively new and not much is known about what it will do to someone.

1976 swine flu outbreak - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's not like the government hasn't screwed up an epidemic response before and that was only about 44 years ago. I wonder if many of the people hesistant to take this vaccine were around in the seventies during that swine flu outbreak?

Swine flu, bird flu shmu.
It's all about control.

They're testing rule of Law

 

[Stravinsk]

Since they aren't asking when registering for the vaccine about political party...where do these stats come from?

Television, of course. If the powers that be said Covid grew on trees and blasted it on television endlessly, then lots of people would believe it. The masses are just that dumb.

 

[Stravinsk]

I hardly call someone getting blood clots from a vaccine and one of those people dying from said blood clots a conspiracy. There is real legit concerns about this vaccine and no one should be looked down upon for having real concerns about it especially when it's relatively new and not much is known about what it will do to someone.

1976 swine flu outbreak - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's not like the government hasn't screwed up an epidemic response before and that was only about 44 years ago. I wonder if many of the people hesistant to take this vaccine were around in the seventies during that swine flu outbreak?

It's not just a safety concern (that is enough, but there's more). The mRNA/DNA vaccines are testing grounds for patents - of humans. Just like they patent certain plants (for example, terminator seed tech) and sell to farmers to make them dependent on seed, the patenting of humans by Corporations is what is being sought here.

The Beast is exercising it's muscle and testing it's technology. Worldwide.

 

[pinacled]

It's not just a safety concern (that is enough, but there's more). The mRNA/DNA vaccines are testing grounds for patents - of humans. Just like they patent certain plants (for example, terminator seed tech) and sell to farmers to make them dependent on seed, the patenting of humans by Corporations is what is being sought here.

The Beast is exercising it's muscle and testing it's technology. Worldwide.

True.

When I was in the military we were tested with anthrax vaccinations.
During my service I was obligated.

Were as now civilians are being pursued for testing.

The media boast is federally funded.
All of them regardless of political affiliation are serving grants.

It's all about mammon

 

[pinacled]

It's not just a safety concern (that is enough, but there's more). The mRNA/DNA vaccines are testing grounds for patents - of humans. Just like they patent certain plants (for example, terminator seed tech) and sell to farmers to make them dependent on seed, the patenting of humans by Corporations is what is being sought here.

The Beast is exercising it's muscle and testing it's technology. Worldwide.

It's about population immunity to every unknown conceivable threat.
An initiative started in 1956

sterilization

 

[mailmandan]

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