Pro Life?

[JRT]

Pro-Life, The American Myth of Republican Christianity​

By John Pavlovitz

Pro-Life.

They keep using those words, but I’m pretty sure those words don’t mean what they think they mean. I’m almost positive pro-life Republicans aren’t pro-life, in any way that actually—you know, protects actual life. I’m pretty sure they’re not for humanity in any meaningful way.

I’ve come to this conclusion because I have eyes and I’m paying attention—and in case you don’t or in case you’re not:

We are currently losing several thousand people here every single day and likely will for the coming months. In less than a single year, 300,000 Americans will have died. That’s 75,000 “Benghazis” for which these same people flagellated themselves and clutched their pearls and engaged in wild public histrionics, because American lives were supposedly important to them. That’s 100 “9/11 attacks,” for which eleven years later, they still proudly brandish their #NeverForget bumper stickers and annual social media eulogies and America First bravado—because unnecessary death moves them, apparently.

And yet, in this moment of perpetual grieving and unfathomable loss, in a month where at least five of the deadliest single days in our nation’s history have occurred—they are not only silent, they are antagonistic and defiant. They are not simply choosing not to act, they are intentionally both insulting and injuring.

In any other nation at any other time, this would be a full-blown human rights emergency, catalyzing its leadership into unprecedented measures and urging their rank-and-file into sacrificial acts of urgency to serve the greater good.

We are not seeing that.

We’re seeing an outgoing president weaponizing our court system and a good portion of his willing party joining him in open sedition, over weeks when this virus has been its most violent and pervasive and insidious—and when they could have been saving people.

We’re seeing elected officials like Ted Cruz and Jim Jordan tweeting childish taunts and crass jokes and phony holiday oppression lamentations, about restrictions designed to stop the exponential spread of a virus that needs irresponsible human beings in order to kill.

We are seeing Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell continually terminating bipartisan efforts to bring financial relief to a nation hanging by a thread, knowing how deadly withholding such aid is and knowing that people will literally cease to exist without it.

We’re seeing an Administration rush to shoehorn in executions before they lose the power to legally and openly kill citizens—because cruelty is the point and because for some reason, no one gets more aroused by seeing someone executed than professed pro-life Christians.

Here, in our historic food insecurity, unprecedented unemployment, immeasurable emotional trauma, and incalculable loss of life—these supposed pro life human beings are doing nothing to prevent the spread of the sickness, or treat people who are at the precipice of death, or make sure tens of thousands of people don’t have to plan funerals over the holidays.

Instead, they are throwing their energies and resources into a brazen assault on the voices of the American people—who voted unequivocally for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris because they realize that they were the only two people in this four-person election who trust science, mourn loss, and truly protect life.

I’m not a theological scholar, but I think my twenty-five years, my seminary education, and my half century as a Christian have at least given me the basic gist of Jesus’ teachings. I’m fairly certain I know what he’d have his followers doing right now.

I think they’d be grieving deeply at the loss of life, mourning with those who mourn, and trying to prevent future memorial services. I think they’d be rushing to heal the wounds of those at the threshold of death. I think they’d be spending every available resource to move people out of harm’s way. I think they’d be leaning into the expertise of people who know how to protect us. I think they’d be wearing a damn mask.

And the fact that Republican professed Christians are doing none of these things right now, and instead gorge themselves in a craven, brazen last-chance power grab, callously indifferent to the loss of life left in their wake—shows me that they are either trying to fool us or themselves.

They are no more concerned for humanity than this virus is.

They are not pro-life.

It’s time we ended that myth for good.

 

[Lamb]

So this is a rant of lumping all Republican politicians into one pile?

 

[Josiah]

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We are currently losing several thousand people here every single day and likely will for the coming months. In less than a single year, 300,000 Americans will have died. [

.... 600,000 innocent, defenseless, unarmed children will die through abortion.

As a Republican, I do NOT ignore the 300,000 of which you speak....I weep for them and pray their lives may be protected. It's the Democrats passionately supporting and defending the killing of twice as many lives.

That’s 100 “9/11 attacks,” for which eleven years later, they still proudly brandish their #NeverForget bumper stickers and annual social media eulogies and America First bravado—because unnecessary death moves them, apparently.

... that's 300 times "9/11" attacks.

.... that's 1,000 times more than are killed by police; the Democrats consider those 600 THE moral horror (some of those 600 were violent, guilty criminals... some shot at the police first... some where great threats to innocent citizens) but those 600 are the killings liberals are so upset by. And they should be. But what about the the 600,000 entirely innocent, defenseless, unarmed children murdered via abortion, the deaths Democrats so passionately defend and support?

In any other nation at any other time, this would be a full-blown human rights emergency, catalyzing its leadership into unprecedented measures and urging their rank-and-file into sacrificial acts of urgency to serve the greater good.

We are not seeing that.

Right. Democrats are the in pocket of the abortion proponents... They have made abortion their secular sacrament.... They defend this murder of 600,000- with a passion, as their most sacred point - as they once did slavery. We sacrifice the most innocent, the most vulnerable... because it gains funding for the Democrat Party.

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris because they realize that they were the only two people in this four-person election who mourn loss, and truly protect life.

They are both obsessively dedicated to defending and supporting the killing, the murder of 600,000 entirely innocent, defenseless, unarmed, vulnerable little children (one-third of which are Black, twice the percentage of Blacks in the population).... for any or no reason whatsoever. They don't mourn these deaths ... they are pledged to support and defend it... they made as a centerpiece of their agenda to NOT protect life but to insure and defend these INTENTIONAL killings of the most defenseless, innocent and vulnerable among us.




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[tango]

Yawn.

Lumping everybody into a single huge pile and acting as if they are all the same isn't a good way to start. And describing people with different opinions as being uncaring makes the rest of the article largely futile.

But hey, let's fuss about the somewhat premature deaths of people who may or may not have lasted much longer anyway, while terminating millions of the unborn who might otherwise have had a long and productive life ahead of them. While we're at it, let's crow about how much we care, unlike those nasty people who aren't like us.

For good measure, let's pretend that total lockdowns don't come with any associated costs. Because, you know, vulnerable children won't find themselves unprotected from their abusers while they're "learning from home" with no regular contact with other adults (including mandated reporters). Abused adults ordered to "shelter in place" with their abusive spouses will be just fine. And of course there won't be any issues with mental health when the entire social fabric of a nation is torn apart and replaced with..... nothing. Businesses destroyed, people in their millions tossed out of work and onto unemployment.... nothing to see here, move along. Because we care.

 

[tango]

So this is a rant of lumping all Republican politicians into one pile?

Of course. Because Democrats come in all kinds of nuances while all Republicans are inbred retards who agree with everything every other Republican has ever said or done in their entire life. At least whoever wrote this drivel seems to think so.

 

[Lamb]

Of course. Because Democrats come in all kinds of nuances while all Republicans are inbred retards who agree with everything every other Republican has ever said or done in their entire life. At least whoever wrote this drivel seems to think so.

Well I asked for clarification if it was directed at politicians because personally I hate to be accused of a wide range of things without ever being asked for my views.

 

[tango]

Well I asked for clarification if it was directed at politicians because personally I hate to be accused of a wide range of things without ever being asked for my views.

I guess all Republican politicians are also inbred retards who agree with everything every other Republican has ever said or done in their entire lives.

I wonder if the author of this drivel could possibly have found a broader brush. Not only has he assumed every Republican thinks the same, he also assumes that a disagreement with the best way to solve a problem is the same as disagreeing that there is a problem at all.

In the political arena it seems pretty common to just assume someone's views. "You're one of those" is all it takes, you don't need to bother understanding the nuances of an individual's position, you just need to put them in any given "one of those" pigeonholes and write them off accordingly. In fairness both sides seem equally bad where that one is concerned.

 

[pinacled]

Pro-Life, The American Myth of Republican Christianity​

By John Pavlovitz

Pro-Life.

They keep using those words, but I’m pretty sure those words don’t mean what they think they mean. I’m almost positive pro-life Republicans aren’t pro-life, in any way that actually—you know, protects actual life. I’m pretty sure they’re not for humanity in any meaningful way.

I’ve come to this conclusion because I have eyes and I’m paying attention—and in case you don’t or in case you’re not:

We are currently losing several thousand people here every single day and likely will for the coming months. In less than a single year, 300,000 Americans will have died. That’s 75,000 “Benghazis” for which these same people flagellated themselves and clutched their pearls and engaged in wild public histrionics, because American lives were supposedly important to them. That’s 100 “9/11 attacks,” for which eleven years later, they still proudly brandish their #NeverForget bumper stickers and annual social media eulogies and America First bravado—because unnecessary death moves them, apparently.

And yet, in this moment of perpetual grieving and unfathomable loss, in a month where at least five of the deadliest single days in our nation’s history have occurred—they are not only silent, they are antagonistic and defiant. They are not simply choosing not to act, they are intentionally both insulting and injuring.

In any other nation at any other time, this would be a full-blown human rights emergency, catalyzing its leadership into unprecedented measures and urging their rank-and-file into sacrificial acts of urgency to serve the greater good.

We are not seeing that.

We’re seeing an outgoing president weaponizing our court system and a good portion of his willing party joining him in open sedition, over weeks when this virus has been its most violent and pervasive and insidious—and when they could have been saving people.

We’re seeing elected officials like Ted Cruz and Jim Jordan tweeting childish taunts and crass jokes and phony holiday oppression lamentations, about restrictions designed to stop the exponential spread of a virus that needs irresponsible human beings in order to kill.

We are seeing Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell continually terminating bipartisan efforts to bring financial relief to a nation hanging by a thread, knowing how deadly withholding such aid is and knowing that people will literally cease to exist without it.

We’re seeing an Administration rush to shoehorn in executions before they lose the power to legally and openly kill citizens—because cruelty is the point and because for some reason, no one gets more aroused by seeing someone executed than professed pro-life Christians.

Here, in our historic food insecurity, unprecedented unemployment, immeasurable emotional trauma, and incalculable loss of life—these supposed pro life human beings are doing nothing to prevent the spread of the sickness, or treat people who are at the precipice of death, or make sure tens of thousands of people don’t have to plan funerals over the holidays.

Instead, they are throwing their energies and resources into a brazen assault on the voices of the American people—who voted unequivocally for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris because they realize that they were the only two people in this four-person election who trust science, mourn loss, and truly protect life.

I’m not a theological scholar, but I think my twenty-five years, my seminary education, and my half century as a Christian have at least given me the basic gist of Jesus’ teachings. I’m fairly certain I know what he’d have his followers doing right now.

I think they’d be grieving deeply at the loss of life, mourning with those who mourn, and trying to prevent future memorial services. I think they’d be rushing to heal the wounds of those at the threshold of death. I think they’d be spending every available resource to move people out of harm’s way. I think they’d be leaning into the expertise of people who know how to protect us. I think they’d be wearing a damn mask.

And the fact that Republican professed Christians are doing none of these things right now, and instead gorge themselves in a craven, brazen last-chance power grab, callously indifferent to the loss of life left in their wake—shows me that they are either trying to fool us or themselves.

They are no more concerned for humanity than this virus is.

They are not pro-life.

It’s time we ended that myth for good.

Is the entirety of this post from palovitz?
Cattle prod?

 

[Member4592]

I don't think a lot of you are going to like what I'm going to say. But that's cool so I'm just going to say it.

Overpopulation is a problem. It's a big big problem and it's only going to get worse. So yeah. I'm all for population control through abortion and birth control. Overpopulation is causing Mass Extinction, Global Pandemics, Pollution, and Climate Change.

Honestly it'd be great to have less people in the world.

 

[Albion]

Pro-Life, The American Myth of Republican Christianity​

By John Pavlovitz

Pro-Life.

They keep using those words, but I’m pretty sure those words don’t mean what they think they mean. I’m almost positive pro-life Republicans aren’t pro-life, in any way that actually—you know, protects actual life. I’m pretty sure they’re not for humanity in any meaningful way.

This was put to us as a question and the answer is that the essay is low level bigotry, but perhaps worse, it's nonsense.

Were there any other questions?

 

[JRT]

Pavlovitz is an eloquent man with very strong opinions but I think that his is a voice that needs to be seriously considered.

 

[Albion]

Pavlovitz is an eloquent man with very strong opinions but I think that his is a voice that needs to be seriously considered.

Not on the basis of that sophomoric essay of his that you offered us.

 

[JRT]

I just went back and reread the essay and then I noticed the date --- early December last year. Do you remember what has happened since then? As if what Pavlovitz was speaking of wasn't bad enough. it very quickly got even worse. There is a demon in the Republican Party that desperately needed to be exorcized and now I think even that may not be enough. I long for the old days when the GOP put forward men of integrity and compassion. I think for example of a President like Dwight Eisenhower.

 

[Bluezone777]

Just because you can write eloquently doesn't mean you are intelligent as the two don't necessarily need to go together. If anything, eloquence can be a cover to hide ignorance and stupidity because most only look at what they can see and don't bother digging to see if there is anything behind all that eloquence or if it is just a cover.

 

[JRT]

Just because you can write eloquently doesn't mean you are intelligent as the two don't necessarily need to go together. If anything, eloquence can be a cover to hide ignorance and stupidity because most only look at what they can see and don't bother digging to see if there is anything behind all that eloquence or if it is just a cover.

That is quite good advice and one I have tried to keep always in mind. I personally feel that Pavlovitz meets the test.