Let's assume you are correct.
1) Christ's sacrifice is effective for the whole world.
If that is correct, then all are saved. It is effective.
Wrong. Absurd.
Such could ONLY be the case if faith is entirely, wholly irrelevant. You'd have to eliminate the Protestant doctrine of Justification: Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide and replace it with Limited Atonement.
The will of humans to not believe, beats the will of God to effectively atone for all human sin.
In debate, this is known as "the shell game." When a debater has nothing to offer, no argument - then he tries to change the subject. Friend, this thread is not about whether all have faith. It's not whether all are saved. It's whether Christ died ONLY for the church, the elect, the FEW. It's about the "L" in TULIP, the part nearly all Calvinists long ago repudiated and now regard as errant "hyper" Calvinism. It is as you said, "that Christ died ONLY for the elect, the church, the few." It's NOT "Limited Distribution of Faith" it's "Christ did NOT die for the whole world but for a small minority of such, Christ died for ONLY a few." It's about Christ, it's about the Cross.
You have documented that you know how to ask a question, but of course questions aren't apologetics nor substantiation and do nothing but document you know how to ask a question (we all do). And you play the shell game EXCEEDINGLY well - always changing the subject, here and then there and then somewhere else, always dodging the subject. For 30 pages of posts now! That's amazing.... Few play the shell game longer than you.
Where does Scripture state that Jesus died for
ONLY a few? Why are all the many Scriptures others have offered that flat-out contradict your stance all wrong, all of them? You've had 30 pages to present this.... but..... nothing so far.
Let me try this AGAIN:
Let's say I buy one-year annual passes to all the Disneyland resorts to all here. It's about $2,500 each (and hard to get) but I pay it. $2500.00 times however many there are at CH. I have them, they just need to receive it (doesn't matter here how that faith comes about - SAME POINT, they now have apprehended, embraced, trusted it, the exact definition of the word "faith"). Now, let's say not all accept their pass.... not all go to any of the Resorts next year. Do they thus benefit from it? No. Obviously. But does that mean I lied? The passes most have are FAKES and FRAUDS? Does it mean that lots will show up at the gates and discover - at the last minute - they were given a fake because actually it's not effective FOR THEM? No. It simply means a
valuable, effective, good pass was not embraced and used. The variable here is not the passes (they're all good, all fully paid for) but the lack faith of the people since all not embrace and use those passes. TRUE, not all are blessed by Disneyland but that's not because most of the passes are fakes, empty, worthless.
Now, I know, you hold that if you absurdly accuse someone of being a synergistic, Pelagian, Arminianist - ergo you are correct. (How illogical!). But there's NOTHING above that is synergistic, it is WHOLLY monergistic, proclaimed by those who were monergists before Calvin was and long before these few later-day hyper-Calvinists were. I gave 100% of everything to God alone. It's just I don't delete faith from the doctrine of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide..... I don't contradict Scripture. Synergists may reject this extremely rare, late, 'hyper-Calvinist" invention because it contradicts Scripture and it eliminates faith (which people choose), Nearly all monergists reject this extremely rare, late, 'hyper-Calvinist' invention because it contradicts Scripture and eliminates faith (which God gives) but either way, it contradicts Scripture and eliminates faith.
It seems that perhaps the "L" is a backward way of addressing why some aren't justified. But the issue here is NOT why some aren't justified, and if you wanted to make THAT your issue, you would have make THAT the issue here. But many have addressed THAT issue. Not all have faith. It ain't that complicated. Now, stop the shell game. The "L" in TULIP is not "Limited Giving of Faith" it's "Christ died for ONLY a few."
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