Brown people wrote the bible

[MoreCoffee]

Down with anti-brown! God chose to be incarnate as a brown man.

Really? God chose to be a specific skin color and so what's your point!?
Jesus most likely wasn't European so what who cares and does that make Jesus pro brown and anti white because he was born brown?
Pun or are you are calling me anti-brown?
Can't tell if you are joking but I hope you are

Love you MC but I just don't understand your obsession with race.

It's a fact that Jesus was born of woman, born under the law and that the people who received the law were Hebrews whose origin was in Ur of the Caldees and then in Canaan, then Egypt, and finally in Canaan again. Ur of the Caldees was in the land we call Iraq now, Canaan is in what we call Israel now, and Egypt is still called Egypt today. The native people of Iraq, Israel, and Egypt are all of the same sort of complexion as Syrians and other Arabs in the fertile crescent; they are "brown" not Nordic white like so many art works suggest in depicting Jesus. There is nothing racist about pointing out the facts. Jesus did not look like this:

(image taken from a Sunday School lesson for young children)

 

[psalms 91]

My only problem with this fact is that no one knows for sure what Jesus looked like except we know He was not good looking and in fact may have been less tha n plain as He is described in that way. Second it really isnt important as it is what Is on the inside that counts, not outside appearances, I think it would be better stressing on His teaching and His compassion for people rather than what He may have looked like

 

[Lamb]

17 pages of posts and I find no anti-brown responses.

 

[MoreCoffee]

My only problem with this fact is that no one knows for sure what Jesus looked like except we know He was not good looking and in fact may have been less tha n plain as He is described in that way. Second it really isnt important as it is what Is on the inside that counts, not outside appearances, I think it would be better stressing on His teaching and His compassion for people rather than what He may have looked like

I agree that no one living today knows for sure if Jesus was tall of short, thin or plump, hazel eyes or brown eyes, black or dark brown haired, or if his beard was bushy and long or trimmed and neat. But we do know his descent because the bible gives it in detail and we know he was an Israelite with some Moabite blood and some Jericho people blood. He probably looked something like a Syrian or a Lebanese or a Jordanian of today, maybe a little different due to the many centuries that have passed and the invasion of Arabs after his time. It isn't his complexion that matters so much but it does matter that people remember where he came from and what people were his and avoid making him in their own image be it white or black or eastern or something else besides what he actually was like. It's okay to identify with Jesus, that is a good thing, but it is not okay to make him into a copy of ourselves by race and culture.

 

[Josiah]

I agree that no one living today knows for sure if Jesus was tall of short, thin or plump, hazel eyes or brown eyes, black or dark brown haired, or if his beard was bushy and long or trimmed and neat. But we do know his descent because the bible gives it in detail and we know he was an Israelite with some Moabite blood and some Jericho people blood. He probably looked something like a Syrian or a Lebanese or a Jordanian of today, maybe a little different due to the many centuries that have passed and the invasion of Arabs after his time. It isn't his complexion that matters so much but it does matter that people remember where he came from and what people were his and avoid making him in their own image be it white or black or eastern or something else besides what he actually was like. It's okay to identify with Jesus, that is a good thing, but it is not okay to make him into a copy of ourselves by race and culture.

It just doesn't matter..... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!


What matters is not how much pigment He had/has in His skin or if he had long hair or short, what matters is His character and whether He IS THE SAVIOR (rather than self or some denomination..... not just a helper or door opener or possibility-maker or PART Savior)




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[Albion]

It just doesn't matter..... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!
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You are right that it doesn't matter. However the claim that these people were Arabs (!) is just stupid.

As was noted much earlier in this thread that never should have seen the light of day, the entire purpose was to offend other CH members.

 

[Josiah]

As was noted much earlier in this thread that never should have seen the light of day, the entire purpose was to offend other CH members.

... as I too posted. This is a very open, very tolerant website (a point I agree with) but at any other website, this thread would have immediately been trashed and the opening poster likely warned. I realize that there is perhaps a cultural issue here, Americans perhaps more sensitive to the sinfulness of racism than perhaps Australians or others, but nonetheless I have found the whole foundation of this thread repulsive, as I think most have.



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[Albion]

... as I too posted. This is a very open, very tolerant website (a point I agree with) but at any other website, this thread would have immediately been trashed and the opening poster likely warned. I realize that there is perhaps a cultural issue here, Americans perhaps more sensitive to the sinfulness of racism than perhaps Australians or others, but nonetheless I have found the whole foundation of this thread repulsive, as I think most have.

I agree. Of course. But, in addition, there is hardly Western nation that is more racist than Australia. From the start, the thread was phony.

 

[Andrew]

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[Albion]

And from that image, we can see that Christ was also a big man for his time.

 

[Andrew]

That first picture was painted by some little girl and was identified by a young boy to be Jesus when he spent a moment in Heaven.

This is the scientific view of an average Jew at the time of Jesus.
But I prefer the first due to an eye witness (if you choose to believe his account), this scientific picture is just a round about idea of the people at that time, yet like a fingerprint no two people have the exact same skin pigment, identical twins perhaps i dunno. Whatever lol

 

[MennoSota]

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[Albion]

this scientific picture is just a round about idea of the people at that time, yet like a fingerprint no two people have the exact same skin pigment, identical twins perhaps i dunno. Whatever lol

That's right. It was produced by a handful of researchers into what the average Jew of Jesus day might have looked like. The Bible does suggest that he was generally average in looks. But an early description also says he had reddish hair, which would conflict with all the usual representations.

 

[Pedrito]

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Top marks for Albion for doing his homework in Post #155 [emphasis added]:

What a Drongo.

Dictionary.com: drongo – Australian Slang – a stupid or slow-witted person; simpleton.

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Also,

You are not the one to decide if it is "fine" or not.

OK, you can say USA people if it titillates you that much.

That’s fair.

Aussies don’t complain when Americans pronounce the name of the Australian city Melbourne, “Melborrrrn” instead of “Melb’n”.

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[atpollard]

It's okay to identify with Jesus, that is a good thing, but it is not okay to make him into a copy of ourselves by race and culture.

Why?
I know lots of African Americans who view Jesus as being VERY African in skin color and facial features. It never offended me and seemed perfectly natural. I know that Asians generally relate more to the Gospel through a lens of loss and regaining of “honor”, so I assume that they imagine a more Asian Jesus. What’s wrong with that?

If I choose to imagine a Jesus who looks like me (European), then what exactly is wrong with that?

In Revelation, Jesus has a sword coming out of his mouth ... I think that would catch my attention before his skin color.

 

[Andrew]

Why?
I know lots of African Americans who view Jesus as being VERY African in skin color and facial features. It never offended me and seemed perfectly natural. I know that Asians generally relate more to the Gospel through a lens of loss and regaining of “honor”, so I assume that they imagine a more Asian Jesus. What’s wrong with that?

If I choose to imagine a Jesus who looks like me (European), then what exactly is wrong with that?

In Revelation, Jesus has a sword coming out of his mouth ... I think that would catch my attention before his skin color.

Win!

 

[Pedrito]

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It looks like MoreCoffee is really browning some people off.

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[Andrew]

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It looks like MoreCoffee is really browning some people off.

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That's it, I can't take it anymore!
I promised myself I wasn't going to do it but I just can't resist it anymore. This thread has absolutely done me in...

Don't bother trying to stop me I must end this now... I must bake me some brownies!!!!!!!!

 

[MoreCoffee]

That's it, I can't take it anymore!
I promised myself I wasn't going to do it but I just can't resist it anymore. This thread has absolutely done me in...

Don't bother trying to stop me I must end this now... I must bake me some brownies!!!!!!!!

Racist cookery! :smirk:

 

[MoreCoffee]

Why?

Why [is it wrong to make Jesus in your own image]? Because it is not true, Jesus isn't and wasn't a USA person, nor a European, nor a black man, nor a South Asian, nor a far east Asian.

I know lots of African Americans who view Jesus as being VERY African in skin color and facial features.

But he isn't black.

It never offended me and seemed perfectly natural. I know that Asians generally relate more to the Gospel through a lens of loss and regaining of “honor”, so I assume that they imagine a more Asian Jesus. What’s wrong with that?

What is wrong with imaging an "Asian Jesus" [by which you appear to mean a far east Asian]? It isn't true, that's what is wrong with it. Jesus is a far west Asian from Judah. Pretending he is something he is not is living in falsehood.

If I choose to imagine a Jesus who looks like me (European), then what exactly is wrong with that?

What is wrong with pretending Jesus is European? It isn't the truth, it's a lie.

In Revelation, Jesus has a sword coming out of his mouth ... I think that would catch my attention before his skin color.

The Apocalypse is a series of visions and visions can be quite unlike reality. In the Apocalypse Jesus is also depicted as a lamb with seven eyes and he is called the Lion of Judah.