Do You Believe in Ghosts (Seriously)?

[Josiah]

Ghosts? Yes or No?


Until 4 or 5 years ago, my parents had friends who lived near-by in what they claimed was a haunted house. They were absolutely serious. The Taylors, an older couple, rented the house at like half the going rate. They said the owner/landlord was very upfront that this was because the house had a "spirit" (the Taylors always referred to it as a "spirit" - I don't know if that's different from a "ghost.") Anyway, they were promised the "spirit" was harmless (although the lease agreement permitting breaking in because of the "spirit"). The Taylors spoke of this spirit as simply harmless - not "friendly" but not scary either. They occasionally would convey something about the spirit. My parents always "poo-pooed" all this, kind of amazed that this otherwise perfectly sane and intelligent couple would think this, but winked at it, occasionally asking how the ghost was.



What do YOU think?

Are ghosts real?

Can homes be haunted?

Are these demons or angels or..... something else?



- Josiah




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[Confessional Lutheran]

No, ghosts are not real. The dead go to Heaven or Hell. I've no doubt that demons can and do impersonate the dearly departed for their own twisted reasons.

 

[Albion]

I do not know. The evidence is strong that ''they'' do exist, but exactly what "they" are all about remains to be explained.

 

[Andrew]

Peter thought he saw a ghost but it was Jesus. Jesus also talks about how spirits have no body and that his resurrected body is flesh.

Also I have taken pictures and have seen personal photos of ghost. I really wish I still had them but they got deleted years ago. One was a friend who wanted to ghost hunt, she took a photo out my garage window and what looked like a black slave man with a machete was standing next to a tree, you could make out his old timey outfit and even a bowtie. Our town was a slave town we still stumble across old sheds with chains and cuffs where they would jail slaves that acted out.
Another one was at her house, she took a picture through the window in her attic overlooking the roof, I saw a figure of a face directly in front of the camera, I took it into a program and enhanced it and sure enough it was a women with very distinct indian features. Her grandma was aztec, she said she would do some witchy indian stuff, she showed me a pic and it was definitely her.
Another friend showed me a photo a lady and her kid sitting on the bed posing, a black shadowy for of a man was posing with them, i got to talk to them about it, the little boy pointed out "thats me, thats mamma, and thats daddy"
She said that her husband and her were arguing and he left on his motorcycle and ended up in a crash and died. She would hear the little boy in the other room "talking" to him.

 

[NewCreation435]

Ghosts? Yes or No?


Until 4 or 5 years ago, my parents had friends who lived near-by in what they claimed was a haunted house. They were absolutely serious. The Taylors, an older couple, rented the house at like half the going rate. They said the owner/landlord was very upfront that this was because the house had a "spirit" (the Taylors always referred to it as a "spirit" - I don't know if that's different from a "ghost.") Anyway, they were promised the "spirit" was harmless (although the lease agreement permitting breaking in because of the "spirit"). The Taylors spoke of this spirit as simply harmless - not "friendly" but not scary either. They occasionally would convey something about the spirit. My parents always "poo-pooed" all this, kind of amazed that this otherwise perfectly sane and intelligent couple would think this, but winked at it, occasionally asking how the ghost was.



What do YOU think?

Are ghosts real?

Can homes be haunted?

Are these demons or angels or..... something else?



- Josiah




.

Do you remember in scripture where when Saul was king he went to a medium and had her raise up Samuel for him? There is no dispute in scripture that she actually did so. It says that Samuel told Saul he would be dead within the next day and with him where he was and that actually happened. It wouldn't surprise me then if some places where more evil happened than others had evil spirits or presence associated with them. The real world is the unseen world. We are just temporary in these bodies

 

[Asuk]

Anyone with evidence please post it here. I will evaluate it and tell you if it’s real or not.

 

[MennoSota]

Does no one here believe in the Sovereignty of God?
God gives us no indication there are ghosts. Instead God condemns magic as wicked and detestable. The medium who called on Samuel was frightened when the Sovereign God brought Samuels spirit to Saul. This was a Sovereign act of God to utterly condemn Saul because Saul had abandoned faith in God and instead sought after the ways of pagans.
It shocks me that Christians can even entertain such a thought regarding ghosts. Do we not trust God's word regarding the dead? If such a thing were possible would not the rich man have gone back to his relatives to warn them? Indeed he would, but God said no.

 

[Asuk]

Good point.

 

[Andrew]

Does no one here believe in the Sovereignty of God?
God gives us no indication there are ghosts. Instead God condemns magic as wicked and detestable. The medium who called on Samuel was frightened when the Sovereign God brought Samuels spirit to Saul. This was a Sovereign act of God to utterly condemn Saul because Saul had abandoned faith in God and instead sought after the ways of pagans.
It shocks me that Christians can even entertain such a thought regarding ghosts. Do we not trust God's word regarding the dead? If such a thing were possible would not the rich man have gone back to his relatives to warn them? Indeed he would, but God said no.

Bit like I mentioned Peter thought he saw a GHOST so there must have been talk about ghost in those days, Jesus states that spirits have no bodies and he was showing them his hands because they also thought he was a ghost. The bible never describes what they are but it does mention the word "ghost" as something frightening and in human form

 

[MoreCoffee]

Well ... the KJV teaches the existence of at least one ghost.

 

[MennoSota]

Bit like I mentioned Peter thought he saw a GHOST so there must have been talk about ghost in those days, Jesus states that spirits have no bodies and he was showing them his hands because they also thought he was a ghost. The bible never describes what they are but it does mention the word "ghost" as something frightening and in human form

Peter was being superstitious, not Spirit filled.

 

[Andrew]

Peter was being superstitious, not Spirit filled.

Well duh, obviously he learned it was Jesus. The bible makes it a reference on several occasions, Jesus said ghosts have no bodies, whats a ghost?

 

[MennoSota]

Well duh, obviously he learned it was Jesus. The bible makes it a reference on several occasions, Jesus said ghosts have no bodies, whats a ghost?

Again, do you have no concept of the Sovereignty of God? What does God's Sovereignty mean to you?

 

[Andrew]

Again, do you have no concept of the Sovereignty of God? What does God's Sovereignty mean to you?

What does Sovereignty of God have to do with us on a forum discussing ghost? For all I know they are demons or aliens or dead alien ghost, we get to heaven or hell true but not true for catholics... Purgatory

 

[MennoSota]

What does Sovereignty of God have to do with us on a forum discussing ghost? For all I know they are demons or aliens or dead alien ghost, we get to heaven or hell true but not true for catholics... Purgatory

It has much to do with God's sovereignty. Not one thing ever happens outside of the ordained will of God. No spirit randomly roams the earth. Each leaf that falls, each ant that moves does so by God's ordained will.
Do you really believe that God ordains a former slave to walk on the earth in a wraith form? What scripture would you use to present this as a reality?
Yes, God's Sovereignty has much to do with this conversation.

 

[Imalive]

Well ... the KJV teaches the existence of at least one ghost.

Ha! Reminds me of Mr. Happy on cf. They had an occult meeting from his office about ghosts and he didn't wanna go, but then he was like: Why not? LOL and he told em about the Holy Ghost.

 

[Imalive]

Ghosts? Yes or No?


Until 4 or 5 years ago, my parents had friends who lived near-by in what they claimed was a haunted house. They were absolutely serious. The Taylors, an older couple, rented the house at like half the going rate. They said the owner/landlord was very upfront that this was because the house had a "spirit" (the Taylors always referred to it as a "spirit" - I don't know if that's different from a "ghost.") Anyway, they were promised the "spirit" was harmless (although the lease agreement permitting breaking in because of the "spirit"). The Taylors spoke of this spirit as simply harmless - not "friendly" but not scary either. They occasionally would convey something about the spirit. My parents always "poo-pooed" all this, kind of amazed that this otherwise perfectly sane and intelligent couple would think this, but winked at it, occasionally asking how the ghost was.



What do YOU think?

Are ghosts real?

Can homes be haunted?

Are these demons or angels or..... something else?



- Josiah




.

Yes. Harold Hills wife played w ghosts. Her friends said this. Her friends said that. Then she was crazy for a year and they had to lock her up in a mental institute. They are real, but they're just demons. A guy on a Dutch forum saw ghosts too and he could get out of his body and walk through walls, but he stopped doing that. Praying he gets saved. His wife is crazy now and locked up. No wonder. In Israel if a house was unclean and they couldnt get it out of the walls they had to break it off. That was a law. They took houses from occult ppl like the Kanaanites. Guess there were demons. After the divorce I had to have a house and I got a house from a sort of ebay. Waiting to rent takes an eternity. Nice house, beautiful. Turned out it was first a cheese shop, then a sex shop and then they renovated it. What did I know. Lol I just lived there cosily w 3 kids. Oldest was 5 or so and he said in the kids bedroom: Mom I see all these ppl here. I was like ewww. Oh thats just demons. I'll kick em out. But I had fallen from my faith after the divorce and had been living in sin and just came back to God. So I tried to kick em out. He said: mom I see one coming out of you. Lol eeeeeww I was scared. I said: lets call daddy.
Theres something wrong in the neighbourhood. Who you gonna call? Ghost busters! Daddy!!! Theres demons in the house!!! So my ex came and kicked em out in Jesus Name and he asked if my son still saw em. They're gone, he said. We went to the baby room. Oh now they're there. So he kicked em out of that room and the house and they were gone and my son never saw em again. Just unclean demons.

 

[Lamb]

Here is a great article What About Ghosts?

"There’s nothing in Scripture that suggests human spirits roam free “released from our shell of a body.” All we hear in Scripture is that death is a horrible thing, and yet as Christians we can have peace in the midst of that horrible thing because we know it’s not the end since we will rise as Christ did when he returns. What we do hear in Scripture is that there are demons and that our battle is against spirits (Ephesians 6). We know that demons are spirits and are deceptive. What does the devil want to do? Scare, deceive, and distract people from Christ. How better to do that than for demons to imitate family and friends, create dread, and pull our focus from Christ and our hope in his resurrection? Think of the implications of the idea that ghosts are people who are trying to “finish something” before passing on. What is there to finish? What will that “finishing” accomplish? What is the source of that so-called “ghosts” salvation?"

 

[Imalive]

You can see ppl too just after they died. A brother from a friend, who was a kid at the time, their dad died and he was in his room and he saw his dad all in white on his way to heaven, waving him goodbye.

 

[MennoSota]

You can see ppl too just after they died. A brother from a friend, who was a kid at the time, their dad died and he was in his room and he saw his dad all in white on his way to heaven, waving him goodbye.

LOL