Why do some Protestants put on rock concerts?

[Brighten04]

I don't think musical styles have anything to do with anything.

I don't think so . The way we worship is the way we worship.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I don't think so . The way we worship is the way we worship.

In ancient times God was very particular about how he was to be worshipped.

 

[Brighten04]

Rock concerts stir the emotions and when done in church people want to believe that it is the Holy Spirit yet in other rock concerts you can see that same emotional effect take place. It's all about feeling good right? Of course worship can be quiet and somber and God is present but some people think that the flashier the better and the bigger crowd will attend.

Well, I think a rock concert does stir the emotions, but a praise and worship service stirs a different kind of emotion. It may look the same, but it is not. Yes worship can be quiet and somber, but it can also be loud and joyous.

Psalm 47:1
O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.

I have never heard a shout that was quiet. LOL.

 

[Josiah]

Some people like Italian food. Some prefer Chinese food.

I don't think we should condemn either.

Now, we might question the nutritional content of ANY and ALL styles of food, but then the issue would not be the style but the nutrition. Frankly, I think society is ENRICHED by the lively diversity of styles of foods.... I think our society would be less if all of us only ate Oatmeal ... 3 times a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.


Frankly, my tastes in worship leans traditional. This is probably because I was raised on Catholicism and got use to that (think comfort food, lol) , and I LEARNED the meaning of all this and found it to be rich and very satisfying. I like very liturgical worship and rather traditional music. BUT THAT'S ME. BTW, I also like some foods but not others. My brother now goes to this HUGE non-denom church that has worship that is probably 50 minutes of LOUD (I mean deafening LOUD) rock music (very very well done, btw - very professional) and maybe 20 minutes of "sermon" (very, very shallow, weak preaching - mostly "HOW TO LIVE" stuff). Not for me. I disliked the music and I didn't appreciate the sermon. I felt all of it was shallow and weak. BUT I think that type of music CAN be rich and meaningful - even if I don't like that style. My church has very liturgical worship and pretty traditional hymns. Very rich, deep. But then we get 50 in church on a Sunday, my bro's church gets thousands - so many they can't get them all in the building and must do video feeds to coffee places, etc. nearby.

Some like Italian food. Some Japanese. Some Mexican. As long as there is good nutrition - I don't think it matters. And the diversity probably enriches people.




- Josiah

 

[MoreCoffee]

Then Moses said to Aaron, "It is what the LORD spoke, saying, 'By those who come near Me I will be treated as holy, And before all the people I will be honored.'" So Aaron, therefore, kept silent. (Leviticus 10:3)

It is surely God's place to say how he will be worshipped. It is not a matter of indifference nor a matter of personal taste.

 

[Brighten04]

In ancient times God was very particular about how he was to be worshipped.

In ancient times God's people shouted their praises, and used all sorts of intruments in praise and worship.

 

[Brighten04]

Then Moses said to Aaron, "It is what the LORD spoke, saying, 'By those who come near Me I will be treated as holy, And before all the people I will be honored.'" So Aaron, therefore, kept silent. (Leviticus 10:3)

It is surely God's place to say how he will be worshipped. It is not a matter of indifference nor a matter of personal taste.

Sure it is God's place to say, and this is what the Word of God says.
Psalm 47:1
O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.

 

[Brighten04]

Psalms 150 Praise ye the Lord. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.

2 Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.

3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.

4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.

6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the Lord. Praise ye the Lord.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Sure it is God's place to say, and this is what the Word of God says.
Psalm 47:1
O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.

Yes, the psalm says that yet that psalm does not say clapping hands is part of the worship that God commands.

 

[Brighten04]

Yes, the psalm says that yet that psalm does not say clapping hands is part of the worship that God commands.

So explain it then.

 

[MoreCoffee]

So explain it then.

It says what it means so I can hardly add an explanation that would not be superfluous.

 

[Josiah]

Yes, the psalm says that yet that psalm does not say clapping hands is part of the worship that God commands.

It also does not say that Crossing oneself is a mandated part of all worship services.... THAT is not the same thing as the Bible FORBIDDING it.


IMO, some traditional hymns have AWFUL lyrics. Some contemporary ones do, too.
IMO, some traditional hymns are musically AWFUL. Some contemporary ones are, too.
What's wrong is BAD lyrics or BAD music. Not the style or the date of composition.


My Catholic parish had a praise band. And occasionally ministered during Mass. Usually BAD songs.



A blessed Lenten season to all....


- Josiah

 

[MoreCoffee]

It also does not say that Crossing oneself is a mandated part of all worship services.... THAT is not the same thing as the Bible FORBIDDING it.
IMO, some traditional hymns have AWFUL lyrics. Some contemporary ones do, too.
IMO, some traditional hymns are musically AWFUL. Some contemporary ones are, too.
What's wrong is BAD lyrics or BAD music. Not the style or the date of composition.
My Catholic parish had a praise band. And occasionally ministered during Mass. Usually BAD songs.
A blessed Lenten season to all....
- Josiah

Indeed no psalm commands crossing one's self nor any other place in the old covenant scriptures but may that not be because the folly of the cross was not yet made known to Israel until Christ was risen and the full significance of a deed so dreadful as to crucify the Son of God was known.

 

[psalms 91]

Sigh, to bad that people cant praise God how they want. I think David faced the same critism when he danced so we are in good company

 

[MoreCoffee]

Sigh, to bad that people cant praise God how they want. I think David faced the same critism when he danced so we are in good company

I think it commendable that men and women as well as children and infants should praise God with voices and instruments in song and with dances and clap their hands. This is praise rather than worship.

 

[Tom85]

I think it comes down to preference.

 

[Josiah]

It also does not say that Crossing oneself is a mandated part of all worship services.... THAT is not the same thing as the Bible FORBIDDING it.


IMO, some traditional hymns have AWFUL lyrics. Some contemporary ones do, too.
IMO, some traditional hymns are musically AWFUL. Some contemporary ones are, too.
What's wrong is BAD lyrics or BAD music. Not the style or the date of composition.


My Catholic parish had a praise band. And occasionally ministered during Mass. Usually BAD songs.



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Indeed no psalm commands crossing one's self nor any other place in the old covenant scriptures but may that not be because the folly of the cross was not yet made known to Israel until Christ was risen and the full significance of a deed so dreadful as to crucify the Son of God was known.

Obviously, you missed my point.

 

[Full O Beans]

Yes, the psalm says that yet that psalm does not say clapping hands is part of the worship that God commands.

Actually, it does.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Obviously, you missed my point.

Say rather that I graciously decided not to make your point into a pointless debate.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Actually, it does.

Show us where.