What is a biblical principle?

[donadams]

What is a biblical principle?

can a biblical principal be applied universally?

thanks

 

[Albion]

I'd say that a "Biblical principle" is a concept or item of fact that is affirmed by the word of God (the Bible) and is authoritative precisely because it is believed to be divine revelation.

can a biblical principal be applied universally?

I'd say "yes." There are many directives and assessments found in the Bible that refer to Jews or women or unrepentant sinners or siblings, etc....and there clearly are people who are not part of one or more of those groups. But still, the application, the principle, would itself be universal. For anyone, anywhere, who is so identified, the advice that is given applies, don't you think?

 

[donadams]

Are there Bible principals based on the parables of Jesus such as “a good tree cannot bear bad fruit”?

is this also true if scripture uses a personal name then it only applies th that person but if says to the disciple then does it apply to all disciples?

 

[Albion]

Are there Bible principals based on the parables of Jesus such as “a good tree cannot bear bad fruit”?

I'd say so. Jesus used many such analogies and it is generally recognized that they are meant to teach some underlying principle.

In the case of the one you pointed to, the usual interpretation is that a person who is basically heretical or deceitful is not going to be offering reliable advice when it comes to doctrine; and vice-versa.

is this also true if scripture uses a personal name then it only applies th that person but if says to the disciple then does it apply to all disciples?

I guess we'd have to see specific examples before answering that one. My guess, offhand, is that sometimes it applies one way but sometimes it's the opposite.

 

[donadams]

Example Jn 19:26 26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

 

[Albion]

What's the Biblical principle that you see in that verse? Generally, the message there is seen as being limited to the connection between Mary and John (about which there are several different theories). I wouldn't think it would be a good example of a "Biblical principle" that is to be applied universally.

 

[donadams]

What's the Biblical principle that you see in that verse? Generally, the message there is seen as being limited to the connection between Mary and John (about which there are several different theories). I wouldn't think it would be a good example of a "Biblical principle" that is to be applied universally.

Ok only it says to the disciple standing there, so I would think it means spiritual motherhood for all disciples?
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[Albion]

Ok only it says to the disciple standing there, so I would think it means spiritual motherhood for all disciples?
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The two most common "takes" on the matter are these: 1) this statement of Jesus indicates to us that John was Jesus' brother or half-brother, so that he's simply saying "John, you have to step up now. Look after our mother when I'm not here."

The other one holds that 2) Jesus is naming John, a close associate but not a relative, to take on that responsibility.

In neither case would the wording seem to be saying that Mary was at that point being made the Mother of all humanity, but there are people who hold to that view.

 

[donadams]

The two most common "takes" on the matter are these: 1) this statement of Jesus indicates to us that John was Jesus' brother or half-brother, so that he's simply saying "John, you have to step up now. Look after our mother when I'm not here."

The other one holds that 2) Jesus is naming John, a close associate but not a relative, to take on that responsibility.

In neither case would the wording seem to be saying that Mary was at that point being made the Mother of all humanity, but there are people who hold to that view.

Not the mother of all men as Eve was but the mother of those living in Christ in the new covenant new creation
Why is Rachel considered the mother of all Israelites? When the 12 sons of Jacob all brothers had 4 mothers unless she was spiritual mother to Israel? Jesus does not say take care of Mary but behold “Thy” mother!

what is significant about the word “behold” is Jesus saying this is a marvelous thing a great surprise or blessing?

I’m learning so much thanks for you’re charitable helps,

what is meant by context, also many sayings or figures of speech are hard to understand. Examples: eph 2 quickened, men who are sinners in matt 5 are called blessed, were not to believe men but must believe the apostles matt 28:19 acts 1:8 acts 2:42

What’s the difference between the tradition of men and divine tradition?


Revelation examples:

People who receive revelation, how did the revelation come, a voice or what?

Lk 1:41-45 how did Elizabeth know these things
Matt 16:17 Peter received revelation
Lk 3:2 the word of God came unto John in the wilderness

Also the spirit fell on some, filled others, and overshadowed Mart what do these mean?

Angel encounters at the tomb at the ascension Gabriel in Lk 1 and
How was Philip guided by an angel acts 8

Thanks

 

[Albion]

Not the mother of all men as Eve was but the mother of those living in Christ in the new covenant new creation

That would be the view most often associated with the Catholic Church, yes.

Why is Rachel considered the mother of all Israelites? When the 12 sons of Jacob all brothers had 4 mothers unless she was spiritual mother to Israel? Jesus does not say take care of Mary but behold “Thy” mother!

what is significant about the word “behold” is Jesus saying this is a marvelous thing a great surprise or blessing?

Could be.

Or it could simply be said in the sense of "Look at her. She is in need of your support."

I’m learning so much thanks for you’re charitable helps,

What’s the difference between the tradition of men and divine tradition?

The first of those is simply the accumulated customs, etc. of a society, but speaking theologically, there is also Holy Tradition. It's usually capitalized and not pluralized (traditions).

It is a concept that says the Christian faith is defined by Scripture BUT ALSO by the track record of the Church through the ages which, in turn, is supposed to be what it is because of the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

When the Protestant Reformation came alone, one of its main themes was Sola Scriptura--the Bible Alone--which was prompted by the Medieval Catholic Church having brought in so many innovations with dubious Scriptural backing and which were not really "traditional," by which I mean that they didn't actually go back to the beginnings of the Church but were introduced later in time.

People who receive revelation, how did the revelation come, a voice or what?

Lk 1:41-45 how did Elizabeth know these things
Matt 16:17 Peter received revelation
Lk 3:2 the word of God came unto John in the wilderness

Also the spirit fell on some, filled others, and overshadowed Mart what do these mean?

Angel encounters at the tomb at the ascension Gabriel in Lk 1 and
How was Philip guided by an angel acts 8

Thanks

As you've indicated with those examples, revelation can "come" in a variety of ways. Usually, the particulars are indicated in the Bible passage, but not always.

 

[donadams]

How can the “Bible alone” or the only authority when scripture itself says the apostles are the light of the world Matt 5:14 we must hear the church Matt 18:17 Matt 28:19 the church is the pillar of truth 1 Tim 3:15 and we must believe the apostles acts 1:8 witnesses of Christ and acts 2:42 lk 10:16 etc.

Thanks

 

[Albion]

How can the “Bible alone” or the only authority when scripture itself says the apostles are the light of the world Matt 5:14 we must hear the church Matt 18:17 Matt 28:19 the church is the pillar of truth 1 Tim 3:15 and we must believe the apostles acts 1:8 witnesses of Christ and acts 2:42 lk 10:16 etc.

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None of that which you've referred to implies that any essential doctrine is to be based upon church custom if it's without Biblical support.

Yes, we all know that the Apostles were critically important to the spread of the faith, that the church of Christ is the vehicle by which the sacraments, etc. are brought to mankind and the true faith preserved, etc. etc. etc., but none of that implies that unScriptural beliefs are to be required of any member simply because those ideas have been around for awhile.

 

[donadams]

I see ok

what about the apostles who wrote no scripture?

do the apostles have authority from Christ to teach or only to write?

2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, andspeak face to face, that our joy may be full.

 

[Albion]

I see ok

what about the apostles who wrote no scripture?

What about them?

do the apostles have authority from Christ to teach or only to write?

Christ gave them a certain degree of authority. But the Christian community cast additional authority upon them, not surprisingly, because they had known the Savior personally.

That being the case, it is understandable that believers in the first century considered the preaching of the Apostles themselves--and to a lesser degree, those people who were tutored directly by one of the Apostles--to be better informed about the beliefs and practices of the religion than other church leaders could be.

2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, andspeak face to face, that our joy may be full.

 

[donadams]

Did the church exist before the New Testament?
Did the church teach and exercise the author Christ before the New Testament and even wrote the New Testament?
Does not Christ’s teaching authority in His church by the apostles remain till Christ returns? Matt 28:19-20 Jn 20:21 acts 1:8

 

[Albion]

Did the church exist before the New Testament?

Certainly. Not much before the first books of the NT were written, but still before, And some of the NT wasn't written until close to the end of the first century AD.

Did the church teach and exercise the author Christ before the New Testament and even wrote the New Testament?

From everything we know from history, yes. And certainly also from what the NT relays to us on its own pages, after that part was written. For example, we know that the Apostles were empowered to jointly meet and choose a successor to Judas after his suicide. Also, we read that Jesus instructed the Apostles to preach to all nations, to baptize converts, and more than that.

Does not Christ’s teaching authority in His church by the apostles remain till Christ returns? Matt 28:19-20 Jn 20:21 acts 1:8

Or their chosen successors, yes.

 

[donadams]

Acts 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

Mathias replaced or succeed judas yes

is the opposite of a scripture also true example: you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free

so is it true that false doctrine causes bondage?

 

[Albion]

Acts 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

Peter was one of the Apostles, as we all know, so I don't follow what you are getting at. I didn't deny that the Apostles were authorized by Christ himself and that the early church looked to them as authoritative.

Mathias replaced or succeed judas yes

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is the opposite of a scripture also true example: you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free

so is it true that false doctrine causes bondage?

Well, if a person is without the truth, I don't see any reason to doubt that he is in some sort of intellectual deprivation...or bondage, if we want to put it that way.

 

[donadams]

Types and figures or prefigures
Are they valid

example: the promised land.
do you see the promised land of Moses as a type of heaven?


Do these refer to the old and new covenants

JTB said he must increase, I must decrease

JTB represents the old and Christ the new?

and from Jn 2 saved the best for last is a reference to the new covenant of grace?

thanks

 

[Albion]

Types and figures or prefigures
Are they valid

In some cases, yes, but not in all cases. That's my opinion without analyzing every possible example in the Bible before offering a reply to your post.