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Yes, Ruth. But our ultra LIBERAL president refused to allow our government to "profile" them and also did not want to invade their privacy. He purposefully ordered them to NOT check any social media accounts. This is the standard operating procedure of our government under Obama's administration.

Another reason why I say that liberalism is essentially the root of everything wrong in both this country and this world.

And being "politically correct" is one of the calling cards of liberalism. Because of this, those 14 people are dead and 20+ wounded.

Using that as an argument against liberalism as a whole is a huge leap.

Not checking public sources of information was a huge oversight. It's a major failure within the whole process of granting visas. It doesn't mean that liberalism is the root of everything wrong in the world.

I'm not a fan of liberalism, I just find huge logical leaps that make little sense get rather tedious.
 

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Muslims live in our country and many other countries just like Christians live all over the world. Christian people have done awful things and Muslim people have down awful things but that does not make all Muslims or all Christians dangerous. It is a big task to find out which ones pose a problem.
 

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Muslims live in our country and many other countries just like Christians live all over the world. Christian people have done awful things and Muslim people have down awful things but that does not make all Muslims or all Christians dangerous. It is a big task to find out which ones pose a problem.

I think a lot of people have an issue in trying to find out who the dangerous ones are because in today's world that's not politically correct.
 

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It makes a lot of sense that if we cant tell then they shouldnt be allowed to enter the country till we can
 

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I think a lot of people have an issue in trying to find out who the dangerous ones are because in today's world that's not politically correct.

Every single one of them is dangerous because of some of the teachings of their holy book. With the right situation, the right incitement any one of them can use various passages in their holy text to do a number of heinous things to non-Muslims, and to females and children who are Muslim.

Their *religion* is a political ideology that is incompatible with the USA's Republic. When they have the numbers - watch out. And they will, eventually, because their birth rate is so much higher than most western countries.
 

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Every single one of them is dangerous because of some of the teachings of their holy book. With the right situation, the right incitement any one of them can use various passages in their holy text to do a number of heinous things to non-Muslims, and to females and children who are Muslim.

Their *religion* is a political ideology that is incompatible with the USA's Republic. When they have the numbers - watch out. And they will, eventually, because their birth rate is so much higher than most western countries.
Totally agree
 

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Every single one of them is dangerous because of some of the teachings of their holy book. With the right situation, the right incitement any one of them can use various passages in their holy text to do a number of heinous things to non-Muslims, and to females and children who are Muslim.

Their *religion* is a political ideology that is incompatible with the USA's Republic. When they have the numbers - watch out. And they will, eventually, because their birth rate is so much higher than most western countries.

Do you know any Muslims? Have you read the Qur 'an? Oh and btw, Muslim birth rates drop with the 2nd and 3rd generations to match those of the society around them.
 

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Ask the UK how its working out or Paris maybe
 

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Ask the UK how its working out or Paris maybe

Ask Sweden. It is the rape capital of Europe, and this statistic directly correlates with that country being one of the largest importers of muslim immigrants.

I like this no nonsense approach from Pat Condell (UK citizen):

 

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Talk to people from there and you will know
 

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I think people still believe the whole "Muslim no-go zones."

Seems that way.

I lived in London for nearly 20 years but apparently know less about it than a US journalist.
 

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Trump meant to ban muslims from entering the USA until a way can be found (if this is even possible) to determine who is good and who is bad. That is just common sense. To do otherwise is playing a form of Russian Roulette.

The idea of bringing the refugees into the USA is also something that should not be allowed, especially since there are places abroad that they can be taken to for safety. There are radical muslims who are trying to impersonate these people in order to sneak into our country and begin planning their acts of murder. Don't agree with this? Then, simply put, you are an idiot. And I am NOT calling you names -- I am merely describing you. I am not referring to anyone specifically in this thread, but am speaking in general terms.

The common thread weaving both of these issues is that it is impossible to vet most of these people. The record keeping in these other nations is not as complete and efficient as we have here in the USA. The backgrounds of many of those people simply are not on any record that we can examine. That is a major reason why terrorists can use this fact to gain entry into our nation. And yes, people have EVERY right and reason to be afraid of muslims -- simply because there is NO way to tell what is going on inside of them. Most are peace loving people who just want to live in peace. Some are radicals who are planning to kill as many of us as they can reach.

Even muslims (the innocent ones) are afraid of other muslims for the exact same reasons. That is why so many of them fail to speak out about the radicals among their demographics -- because they would also be killed by these radicals. So Ruth, and others, you have no need to apologize for expressing fear, or concern, regarding muslims. It is very much like being around black people. Most of them are fine citizens. But their people do commit most of the violent crime in the USA -- so who is to say whether or not a black person walking toward you on the sidewalk is a good person or a mugger, etc.?

It is only human nature to feel fear in situations that are potentially harmful to them. And I'm looking forward to reading the replies to this post that try to refute this reality and pretend it is not true. LOL

People also forget that the USA discontinued almost all immigration into this country from around 1924 until around 1964. There is no automatic right for any non-American person to enter this country, so we are not violating any foreigner's rights by denying them entry into our country. The safety of ALL American citizens in this country is what must receive top priority.

No American citizen can be blamed if they feel unsafe around anyone who appears to be from the middle east. It was not like this before 911. But, since that infamous day, the entire world has changed because the radical muslims will stop at nothing to achieve their goal of killing anyone who does not believe as they do. And anyone who says that people are acting out of hatred, or silliness, are absolute idiots. We've already seen acts of murder committed in this country by radical muslims -- a fact that cannot be refuted.

And, as long as radicals are out there still planning to kill as many of us as they can, we must practice diligence and try protect ourselves as much as possible.
 

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You do realise that refugees going to the US are vetted for almost 2 years don't you? By both the UN and US authorities.
 

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I am from there. What should I know?
The problems they have caused. Not integrating into society but rather setting up their own and trying to live by Shahira law and want ing to have a seperate legal system for them governed by Shahira law, not to mention the crime
 

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You do realise that refugees going to the US are vetted for almost 2 years don't you? By both the UN and US authorities.
Yes and we see how well that has worked. Ask yourself why they are fleeing to the west rather than to oil rich arab countries. They want to escape fine, twelll the arab states to take care of their own
 

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The problems they have caused. Not integrating into society but rather setting up their own and trying to live by Shahira law and want ing to have a seperate legal system for them governed by Shahira law, not to mention the crime

Obviously they are a huge problem, given I managed to live and work among them without really noticing it.
 
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