Odë:hgöd
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• Gen 4:1a . . Now the man knew his wife Eve,
There is more to knowledge than just information. Some kinds of knowledge can't
be learned from a book or a lecture; they can only be learned by personal
experience. Carnal knowledge is one of those kinds of knowing. It's one thing for a
young man to learn things about girls from looking at their pictures and reading
about them in biology books and/or in magazines like Cosmopolitan, and Maxim;
but it's quite another learning experience to actually cuddle with a girl and sleep
with her skin to skin. Throughout the Old Testament, "knew his wife" is a common
colloquialism for people sleeping together.
Genesis records no human intimacy in the garden prior to Man's eviction; but that
doesn't prove none occurred; it just proves that none is mentioned till the fourth
chapter.
• Gen 4:1b . . and she conceived and bore Cain, saying: I have gained a male child
with the help of the Lord.
God wrapped creation on the seventh day (Gen 2:2) and rested after that. Not
because He was tired, but because He was all done. At that time, the human race
was all done too. Everyone since then has just been a reproduction of Adam.
"It was you who created my consciousness; you fashioned me in my mother's
womb. I praise you, for I am awesomely, wondrously made; your work is
wonderful; I know it very well. My frame was not concealed from you when I was
shaped in a hidden place, knit together in the recesses of the earth. Your eyes saw
my unformed limbs; they were all recorded in your book; in due time they were
formed, to the very last one of them." (Ps 139:13-16)
The writer of that Psalm believed that God saw him way before he was ever
conceived in his mother's womb. In fact; saw his substance in the recesses of the
earth before his mom even conceived: which attests that everyone pre-exists in
Adam because he alone was actually created directly from "the recesses of the
earth". Everyone else stems from Adam's organic tissues and it's just a matter of
time before the right combination of genes brings them out.
"Just as you do not know how the spirit of life passes into the limbs within the
womb of the pregnant woman, so you cannot foresee the actions of God, who
causes all things to happen." (Ecc 11:5)
Acts of creation don't take place when babies are conceived. No, everybody's
creation took place back when Adam was created. Babies are merely reproductions
of Adam via the blessing of fertility.
Adam received life from God on the sixth day of creation. When God formed the
woman, He didn't breathe the breath of life into her nostrils like He did Adam. God
simply used Adam's already-existing life to energize Eve. And ever since then,
parents have been passing their life onto their children. In other words: human life
- like bird life, fish life, bug life, reptile life, and beast life --is a transferable kind of
life; passing from one generation on to the next. It's not a miraculous process; no,
it's a perfectly natural process; and it's a pretty amazing process too.
According to ancient Jewish thought, Eve thought Cain to be a very special boy.
T• And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived,
and bare Kain; and she said: I have acquired a man, the Angel of The Lord.
(Targum Jonathan)
Apparently Eve expected her firstborn son to be "the God-sent one" who was
supposed to fulfill the promise of Gen 3:15 and crush the Serpent's head. But alas,
Cain was just an ordinary kid.]
NOTE: The Hebrew word for "angel" is mal'ak (mal-awk') which doesn't especially
indicate a celestial being. The word is a bit ambiguous and essentially means a
dispatched deputy or a messenger; viz: someone who speaks for, and/or
represents, another; i.e. an ambassador and/or someone selected by God for a
special purpose. The New Testament equivalent is aggelos (ang'-el-os) and means
pretty much the same thing
_
• Gen 4:1a . . Now the man knew his wife Eve,
There is more to knowledge than just information. Some kinds of knowledge can't
be learned from a book or a lecture; they can only be learned by personal
experience. Carnal knowledge is one of those kinds of knowing. It's one thing for a
young man to learn things about girls from looking at their pictures and reading
about them in biology books and/or in magazines like Cosmopolitan, and Maxim;
but it's quite another learning experience to actually cuddle with a girl and sleep
with her skin to skin. Throughout the Old Testament, "knew his wife" is a common
colloquialism for people sleeping together.
Genesis records no human intimacy in the garden prior to Man's eviction; but that
doesn't prove none occurred; it just proves that none is mentioned till the fourth
chapter.
• Gen 4:1b . . and she conceived and bore Cain, saying: I have gained a male child
with the help of the Lord.
God wrapped creation on the seventh day (Gen 2:2) and rested after that. Not
because He was tired, but because He was all done. At that time, the human race
was all done too. Everyone since then has just been a reproduction of Adam.
"It was you who created my consciousness; you fashioned me in my mother's
womb. I praise you, for I am awesomely, wondrously made; your work is
wonderful; I know it very well. My frame was not concealed from you when I was
shaped in a hidden place, knit together in the recesses of the earth. Your eyes saw
my unformed limbs; they were all recorded in your book; in due time they were
formed, to the very last one of them." (Ps 139:13-16)
The writer of that Psalm believed that God saw him way before he was ever
conceived in his mother's womb. In fact; saw his substance in the recesses of the
earth before his mom even conceived: which attests that everyone pre-exists in
Adam because he alone was actually created directly from "the recesses of the
earth". Everyone else stems from Adam's organic tissues and it's just a matter of
time before the right combination of genes brings them out.
"Just as you do not know how the spirit of life passes into the limbs within the
womb of the pregnant woman, so you cannot foresee the actions of God, who
causes all things to happen." (Ecc 11:5)
Acts of creation don't take place when babies are conceived. No, everybody's
creation took place back when Adam was created. Babies are merely reproductions
of Adam via the blessing of fertility.
Adam received life from God on the sixth day of creation. When God formed the
woman, He didn't breathe the breath of life into her nostrils like He did Adam. God
simply used Adam's already-existing life to energize Eve. And ever since then,
parents have been passing their life onto their children. In other words: human life
- like bird life, fish life, bug life, reptile life, and beast life --is a transferable kind of
life; passing from one generation on to the next. It's not a miraculous process; no,
it's a perfectly natural process; and it's a pretty amazing process too.
According to ancient Jewish thought, Eve thought Cain to be a very special boy.
T• And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived,
and bare Kain; and she said: I have acquired a man, the Angel of The Lord.
(Targum Jonathan)
Apparently Eve expected her firstborn son to be "the God-sent one" who was
supposed to fulfill the promise of Gen 3:15 and crush the Serpent's head. But alas,
Cain was just an ordinary kid.]
NOTE: The Hebrew word for "angel" is mal'ak (mal-awk') which doesn't especially
indicate a celestial being. The word is a bit ambiguous and essentially means a
dispatched deputy or a messenger; viz: someone who speaks for, and/or
represents, another; i.e. an ambassador and/or someone selected by God for a
special purpose. The New Testament equivalent is aggelos (ang'-el-os) and means
pretty much the same thing
_
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