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• Gen 50:4a . . and when the mourning period was over, Joseph spoke to Pharaoh's
court
It's curious that Joseph didn't meet with Pharaoh in person; I mean, after all,
Joseph was second in command over the entire country of Egypt, and certainly
outranked all of Pharaoh's courtiers. It's guessed by some that in the Egypt of
Joseph's day, a dead man's close kin were deemed unfit to approach a Pharaoh.
Whether it was for religious reasons, or just simply customary propriety is
unknown.
• Gen 50:4b-5a . . saying; Do me this kindness, and lay this appeal before
Pharaoh: "My father made me swear, saying; I am about to die. Be sure to bury me
in the grave which I made ready for myself in the land of Canaan."
Apparently some time in the past, prior to his immigration to Egypt, Jacob spent
some time in Abraham's cemetery preparing a spot in it for his own burial so that
his surviving kin only had to take him there-- no muss, no fuss, no money
problems, and no legal hassles. It's a good idea for people to make arrangements
for their own burials rather than leaving it all up to the inconvenience of their kin.
• Gen 50:5b . . Now, therefore, let me go up and bury my father; then I shall
return.
It's quite probable that Joseph's assurance of his return anticipated Pharaoh's
anxiety that Joseph might stay back in the land with his brothers if permitted to
leave the country and thus The Man would lose the services of not only his
kingdom's best cattle ranchers but also the services of an extraordinarily capable
bureaucrat.
• Gen 5:6 . . And Pharaoh said: Go up and bury your father, as he made you
promise on oath.
Pharaoh's choice of words, though inadvertent, were quite appropriate. Travel to
Israel is to go "up" and to leave it is to go down. Israel is biblically regarded as the
top of the mountains. (Isa 2:2-3)
• Gen 50:7-8 . . So Joseph went up to bury his father; and with him went up all the
officials of Pharaoh, the senior members of his court, and all of Egypt's dignitaries,
together with all of Joseph's household, his brothers, and his father's household;
only their children, their flocks, and their herds were left in the region of Goshen.
Leaving the children and the flocks back in Egypt was not only a practical
consideration but served to reassure Pharaoh that Joseph and his kin fully
intended to return as he had promised; which sort of reminds me of a scene in
Goodbye Girl when Richard Dreyfuss leaves his guitar behind when he goes to a
new acting job to assure Marsha Mason he'll be back.
That method is common. For example: North Korea's Kim Jong-Un has a number of
his citizens dispatched in foreign countries to earn money for his treasury in a
variety of enterprises. To ensure they don't get ideas about defecting, Kim keeps
their families at home and promises to imprison and/or execute them should his
earners choose never to return.
When people pick up and move; lock, stock, and barrel; you pretty much know they
aren't coming back; which is probably why a later-to-come Pharaoh wouldn't let
Moses go to worship with everything his people possessed. (Ex 10:24)
Precisely why Pharaoh's courtiers, and all of Egypt's dignitaries came along is hard
to understand unless protocol and custom demanded they pay their respects
because of Joseph's rank. Though he wasn't really a home boy, Joseph's marriage
to the daughter of the priest of On, and his Pharaoh-given name of Tsophnath
Pa'neach, made him a naturalized Egyptian; and he was entitled to just as much of
the nation's respect afforded its native sons.
NOTE: I've heard it said that the reason half of us go to funerals is to pay our
respects to people we avoided when they were alive.
• Gen 50:9 . . Chariots, too, and horsemen went up with him; it was a very large
troop.
The unit of fighting men was likely for safeguarding all the dignitaries. Palestine
was a frontier in those days; and a caravan of aristocrats would be a really
tempting target for brigands.
_
• Gen 50:4a . . and when the mourning period was over, Joseph spoke to Pharaoh's
court
It's curious that Joseph didn't meet with Pharaoh in person; I mean, after all,
Joseph was second in command over the entire country of Egypt, and certainly
outranked all of Pharaoh's courtiers. It's guessed by some that in the Egypt of
Joseph's day, a dead man's close kin were deemed unfit to approach a Pharaoh.
Whether it was for religious reasons, or just simply customary propriety is
unknown.
• Gen 50:4b-5a . . saying; Do me this kindness, and lay this appeal before
Pharaoh: "My father made me swear, saying; I am about to die. Be sure to bury me
in the grave which I made ready for myself in the land of Canaan."
Apparently some time in the past, prior to his immigration to Egypt, Jacob spent
some time in Abraham's cemetery preparing a spot in it for his own burial so that
his surviving kin only had to take him there-- no muss, no fuss, no money
problems, and no legal hassles. It's a good idea for people to make arrangements
for their own burials rather than leaving it all up to the inconvenience of their kin.
• Gen 50:5b . . Now, therefore, let me go up and bury my father; then I shall
return.
It's quite probable that Joseph's assurance of his return anticipated Pharaoh's
anxiety that Joseph might stay back in the land with his brothers if permitted to
leave the country and thus The Man would lose the services of not only his
kingdom's best cattle ranchers but also the services of an extraordinarily capable
bureaucrat.
• Gen 5:6 . . And Pharaoh said: Go up and bury your father, as he made you
promise on oath.
Pharaoh's choice of words, though inadvertent, were quite appropriate. Travel to
Israel is to go "up" and to leave it is to go down. Israel is biblically regarded as the
top of the mountains. (Isa 2:2-3)
• Gen 50:7-8 . . So Joseph went up to bury his father; and with him went up all the
officials of Pharaoh, the senior members of his court, and all of Egypt's dignitaries,
together with all of Joseph's household, his brothers, and his father's household;
only their children, their flocks, and their herds were left in the region of Goshen.
Leaving the children and the flocks back in Egypt was not only a practical
consideration but served to reassure Pharaoh that Joseph and his kin fully
intended to return as he had promised; which sort of reminds me of a scene in
Goodbye Girl when Richard Dreyfuss leaves his guitar behind when he goes to a
new acting job to assure Marsha Mason he'll be back.
That method is common. For example: North Korea's Kim Jong-Un has a number of
his citizens dispatched in foreign countries to earn money for his treasury in a
variety of enterprises. To ensure they don't get ideas about defecting, Kim keeps
their families at home and promises to imprison and/or execute them should his
earners choose never to return.
When people pick up and move; lock, stock, and barrel; you pretty much know they
aren't coming back; which is probably why a later-to-come Pharaoh wouldn't let
Moses go to worship with everything his people possessed. (Ex 10:24)
Precisely why Pharaoh's courtiers, and all of Egypt's dignitaries came along is hard
to understand unless protocol and custom demanded they pay their respects
because of Joseph's rank. Though he wasn't really a home boy, Joseph's marriage
to the daughter of the priest of On, and his Pharaoh-given name of Tsophnath
Pa'neach, made him a naturalized Egyptian; and he was entitled to just as much of
the nation's respect afforded its native sons.
NOTE: I've heard it said that the reason half of us go to funerals is to pay our
respects to people we avoided when they were alive.
• Gen 50:9 . . Chariots, too, and horsemen went up with him; it was a very large
troop.
The unit of fighting men was likely for safeguarding all the dignitaries. Palestine
was a frontier in those days; and a caravan of aristocrats would be a really
tempting target for brigands.
_