Odë:hgöd
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• Gen 46:1 . . So Israel set out with all that was his, and he came to Beer-sheba,
where he offered sacrifices to the God of his father Isaac.
I would imagine that Jacob was a bit uncertain as to whether or not he should leave
the promised land and go to Egypt, even though his granddad had migrated for that
exact same reason back in chapter 12. Jacob was promised a multitude of offspring
who were supposed to inherit Palestine, and how ever could that happen if he
wasn't even living in the land? And it seemed every time a patriarch left Palestine
they got into trouble. Jacob had to wonder: Was he walking into a trap?
Jacob, being a prophet, may have suspected that the prediction below was
somehow related to his present circumstances.
"Then Yhvh said to Abram: Know for certain that your descendants will be strangers
in a country not their own, and they will be enslaved and mistreated four hundred
years. But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will
come out with great possessions." (Gen 15:13-15)
• Gen 46:2-4a . . God called to Israel in a vision by night: Jacob! Jacob! He
answered: Here. And He said: I am 'El, the god of your father. Fear not to go down
to Egypt, for I will make you there into a great nation. I myself will go down with
you to Egypt, and I myself will also bring you back;
Although El's promise to accompany Jacob in Egypt was generous; He pretty much
had to because back in Gen 28:15 Yhvh said "Remember, I am with you: I will
protect you wherever you go and will bring you back to this land. I will not leave
you until I have done what I have promised you."
Since Jacob was destined to die in Egypt, God's promise to "bring you back" would
be quite hollow unless He intended to raise Jacob from the dead some day; which
He does. (Matt 8:11)
There were so many 'els out and about in Jacob's day that it was necessary for
Jacob's god to pick His words carefully in order to make sure people fully
understood who He was so they didn't confuse Him with one of the other deities
popular in that day. By identifying Himself to Jacob as the "god of your father"
there was no mistaking who was speaking.
• Gen 46:4b . . and Joseph's hand shall close your eyes.
That must have been a comforting prediction for Jacob. Not the dying part, but the
fact that he would die in Joseph's company, rather than dying somewhere distant
only for Joseph to hear about it later before he had a chance to say his farewells.
• Gen 46:5-7 . . So Jacob set out from Beer-sheba. The sons of Israel put their
father Jacob and their children and their wives in the wagons that Pharaoh had sent
to transport him; and they took along their livestock and the wealth that they had
amassed in the land of Canaan. Thus Jacob and all his offspring with him came to
Egypt: he brought with him to Egypt his sons and grandsons, his daughters and
granddaughters-- all his offspring.
Not mentioned as participants in the wagon train were the slaves; the "wealth that
they had amassed in the land of Canaan" would have included them as well as the
livestock. If Isaac passed down granddad Abraham's army to Jacob; then the whole
troupe-- family, wagons, slaves, and of course the herds; composed of sheep,
goats, cows, burros, and camels --must have been a very impressive sight
traveling down the road to Shur into Egypt.
The Hebrew word for "daughter" is ambiguous. It can mean an immediate female
offspring (e.g. Gen 46:15) or even all the females in a whole country (e.g. Gen
28:8). But in this case, the females referred to were limited to Jacob's own
biological children (vs 7 and vs 26) rather than including every female in the camp.
• Gen 46:8-27 . .These are the names of the Israelites, Jacob and his descendants,
who came to Egypt-- all the persons belonging to Jacob who came to Egypt --his
own issue, aside from the wives of Jacob's sons --all these persons numbered 66.
And Joseph's sons who were born to him in Egypt were two in number. Thus the
total of Jacob's household who came to Egypt was seventy persons.
The number would have to include both Joseph and Jacob in order to come out
right. The nose count has its problems with other portions of scripture that contain
the rosters. Expositors with higher IQ's and better educations than mine haven't
had much luck at harmonizing those discrepancies so I could hardly expect myself
to do any better.
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• Gen 46:1 . . So Israel set out with all that was his, and he came to Beer-sheba,
where he offered sacrifices to the God of his father Isaac.
I would imagine that Jacob was a bit uncertain as to whether or not he should leave
the promised land and go to Egypt, even though his granddad had migrated for that
exact same reason back in chapter 12. Jacob was promised a multitude of offspring
who were supposed to inherit Palestine, and how ever could that happen if he
wasn't even living in the land? And it seemed every time a patriarch left Palestine
they got into trouble. Jacob had to wonder: Was he walking into a trap?
Jacob, being a prophet, may have suspected that the prediction below was
somehow related to his present circumstances.
"Then Yhvh said to Abram: Know for certain that your descendants will be strangers
in a country not their own, and they will be enslaved and mistreated four hundred
years. But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will
come out with great possessions." (Gen 15:13-15)
• Gen 46:2-4a . . God called to Israel in a vision by night: Jacob! Jacob! He
answered: Here. And He said: I am 'El, the god of your father. Fear not to go down
to Egypt, for I will make you there into a great nation. I myself will go down with
you to Egypt, and I myself will also bring you back;
Although El's promise to accompany Jacob in Egypt was generous; He pretty much
had to because back in Gen 28:15 Yhvh said "Remember, I am with you: I will
protect you wherever you go and will bring you back to this land. I will not leave
you until I have done what I have promised you."
Since Jacob was destined to die in Egypt, God's promise to "bring you back" would
be quite hollow unless He intended to raise Jacob from the dead some day; which
He does. (Matt 8:11)
There were so many 'els out and about in Jacob's day that it was necessary for
Jacob's god to pick His words carefully in order to make sure people fully
understood who He was so they didn't confuse Him with one of the other deities
popular in that day. By identifying Himself to Jacob as the "god of your father"
there was no mistaking who was speaking.
• Gen 46:4b . . and Joseph's hand shall close your eyes.
That must have been a comforting prediction for Jacob. Not the dying part, but the
fact that he would die in Joseph's company, rather than dying somewhere distant
only for Joseph to hear about it later before he had a chance to say his farewells.
• Gen 46:5-7 . . So Jacob set out from Beer-sheba. The sons of Israel put their
father Jacob and their children and their wives in the wagons that Pharaoh had sent
to transport him; and they took along their livestock and the wealth that they had
amassed in the land of Canaan. Thus Jacob and all his offspring with him came to
Egypt: he brought with him to Egypt his sons and grandsons, his daughters and
granddaughters-- all his offspring.
Not mentioned as participants in the wagon train were the slaves; the "wealth that
they had amassed in the land of Canaan" would have included them as well as the
livestock. If Isaac passed down granddad Abraham's army to Jacob; then the whole
troupe-- family, wagons, slaves, and of course the herds; composed of sheep,
goats, cows, burros, and camels --must have been a very impressive sight
traveling down the road to Shur into Egypt.
The Hebrew word for "daughter" is ambiguous. It can mean an immediate female
offspring (e.g. Gen 46:15) or even all the females in a whole country (e.g. Gen
28:8). But in this case, the females referred to were limited to Jacob's own
biological children (vs 7 and vs 26) rather than including every female in the camp.
• Gen 46:8-27 . .These are the names of the Israelites, Jacob and his descendants,
who came to Egypt-- all the persons belonging to Jacob who came to Egypt --his
own issue, aside from the wives of Jacob's sons --all these persons numbered 66.
And Joseph's sons who were born to him in Egypt were two in number. Thus the
total of Jacob's household who came to Egypt was seventy persons.
The number would have to include both Joseph and Jacob in order to come out
right. The nose count has its problems with other portions of scripture that contain
the rosters. Expositors with higher IQ's and better educations than mine haven't
had much luck at harmonizing those discrepancies so I could hardly expect myself
to do any better.
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