The Lord's Prayer

[Lamb]

I have heard that some churches do not say the Lord's Prayer in their services and I'm wondering why that is? The Lord has given us the most perfect prayer! Going through line by line you can apply it to your day to day living and it becomes more meaningful to you without it being pure recitation.

 

[psalms 91]

I agree although I dont think it is a requirement

 

[Forgiven1]

I don't get it either. It is the perfect prayer. Some of the places that don't pray the Lord's prayer may also be non-credal.

 

[brinny]

Jesus gave us an outline on how to approach God the Father......

When Jesus spoke to the Father He spoke differently each time, depending on what the need was. It is the same with us. We say what is on our hearts, like David did, and as Job did, and Jesus Himself did

 

[Lamb]

No one is saying it's a requirement. I'm wondering why it's avoided in some churches since it's so perfect? Look at all the things it addresses in one spot.

 

[brinny]

No one is saying it's a requirement. I'm wondering why it's avoided in some churches since it's so perfect? Look at all the things it addresses in one spot.

It's beautiful....i found a beautiful rendition of it in song.....i agree that it should be included, and meditated on, and absorbed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZ5OnSKrxY

 

[psalms 91]

Yes, a perfect guide I agree but I also dont like a repititious prayer either. I view prayer as talking with God

 

[brinny]

Yes, a perfect guide I agree but I also dont like a repititious prayer either. I view prayer as talking with God

I agree. Jesus Himself never was never "repetitious" in His talking with the Father.

 

[Lamb]

How does it become repetitious when, as you pray, you are applying it to what's going on currently in your life? My life certainly isn't repetitious and there are factors that apply to each section of the prayer that change throughout the day.

 

[brinny]

How does it become repetitious when, as you pray, you are applying it to what's going on currently in your life? My life certainly isn't repetitious and there are factors that apply to each section of the prayer that change throughout the day.

We are admonished to "pray without ceasing".

Can you elaborate on what this means?

Thank you kindly.

 

[Lamb]

We are admonished to "pray without ceasing".

Can you elaborate on what this means?

Thank you kindly.

We can pray without even using words. We can quickly give thanks as we nearly miss a finger chopping food for dinner! We can offer prayer for assistance for those in need as we hear sirens. We can pray for peace throughout the day if we're feeling nervous. We can pray for thanksgiving for talent as we listen to beautiful singers. Prayers don't have to be long and extensive. Even taking portions of the Lord's prayer or praying the psalms can be done for those who know them by heart.

I know I don't pray without ceasing but I do connect with God numerous times throughout the day and often without realizing I'm doing it. It's just something I do.

 

[brinny]

We can pray without even using words. We can quickly give thanks as we nearly miss a finger chopping food for dinner! We can offer prayer for assistance for those in need as we hear sirens. We can pray for peace throughout the day if we're feeling nervous. We can pray for thanksgiving for talent as we listen to beautiful singers. Prayers don't have to be long and extensive. Even taking portions of the Lord's prayer or praying the psalms can be done for those who know them by heart.

I know I don't pray without ceasing but I do connect with God numerous times throughout the day and often without realizing I'm doing it. It's just something I do.

I was establishing if you were recommending citing the Lord's Prayer without ceasing, and if "praying" means only citing the Lord's prayer.

Thank you kindly.

 

[psalms 91]

As I said, prayer is talking with God and if our prayer is the same over and over it then becomes habit and is no longer conversation. I also see what you are saying about applying it to our life

 

[Hammster]

I have heard that some churches do not say the Lord's Prayer in their services and I'm wondering why that is? The Lord has given us the most perfect prayer! Going through line by line you can apply it to your day to day living and it becomes more meaningful to you without it being pure recitation.

The disciples asked Jesus how to pray, not what to pray. I think it's supposed to be a guideline on how to pray. Otherwise it's just repetition.


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[psalms 91]

The disciples asked Jesus how to pray, not what to pray. I think it's supposed to be a guideline on how to pray. Otherwise it's just repetition.


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Exactly right

 

[Hebrews 11]

I love the Lord's prayer.

I realize that Christ gave this prayer before Calvary,and I know the prayer has been answered praise God.

Our sin is forgiven,his Kingdom has come and God's will was done.

 

[tango]

I have heard that some churches do not say the Lord's Prayer in their services and I'm wondering why that is? The Lord has given us the most perfect prayer! Going through line by line you can apply it to your day to day living and it becomes more meaningful to you without it being pure recitation.

If you say anything often enough it's very easy for it to just become a recital without meaning. If you stop and think about it line by line it's powerful stuff, but when it's just a case of "and this is the bit where we say the Lord's prayer" it's easy to just switch off and recite it without really thinking about it.

I'd rather see it used frequently enough to be fresh but infrequently enough that it doesn't just become the bit you do 40 minutes into the service.

 

[Lamb]

If you say anything often enough it's very easy for it to just become a recital without meaning. If you stop and think about it line by line it's powerful stuff, but when it's just a case of "and this is the bit where we say the Lord's prayer" it's easy to just switch off and recite it without really thinking about it.

I'd rather see it used frequently enough to be fresh but infrequently enough that it doesn't just become the bit you do 40 minutes into the service.

Since it comes from scripture...is it really as useless as you're claiming? God's Word does not return to Him empty

 

[popsthebuilder]

Personal prayer is to be just that.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

 

[tango]

Since it comes from scripture...is it really as useless as you're claiming? God's Word does not return to Him empty

I'm not claiming it's useless, I'm just saying that if we repeat anything often enough we can potentially end up just going through the motions without taking time to think about what we're saying.

I remember in my much younger years having been taken to the local Church of England church (against my will - my father worked abroad, my mother went to church, and I wasn't old enough to be left home alone) when I came to realise that I could recite most of the assorted creeds from memory but still had no idea what they meant.

The prayer itself isn't useless but if we're just reciting the words on the page because they are on the page and we've got to the bit in the service where we recite the words of this particular page, we can easily find ourselves in a mindset where we say "thy kingdom come, thy will be done" not because we want God's kingdom to come or God's will to be done but because we're at the point in the service where we say those words. If we're in that mindset the chances are we might as well be reading Moby Dick with our minds disengaged.