The difference between type 1 and type 2 diabetes

[NewCreation435]

So this isn't meant as a post to replace advise from a doctor. I just notice that people clearly don't understand the difference between type one and type two diabetes.
With type one diabetes it means that the body is producing very little if any insulin on its own. When a person is newly diagnosed it is possible it may be producing a little,but not enough. Most people find out they have this when they are have symptoms and find out in the hospital. For a person with type 1 the only way they get insulin is through a shot or the pump. Oral medications don't help someone with type one.

Type two diabetes means your insulin is not being absorbed well or as effective as it once was. For this type person oral medications, diet and exercise can often be the only thing they need. But, since diabetes is progressive it means over time it gets harder to control and manage and you may have to go on insulin.

There are a lot of people talking online about how you can be cured of diabetes due to diet or exercise. That is not true at all. These are usually people who are eating little to no carbs. They are managing their diabetes through diet. It didn't go away, it is being managed which is different.

Now, doctor use the term pre diabetes. This is fairly new for them to be using this term. It's kinda like saying your pre pregnant. The truth is that you either have it or you don't.

I admittedly am bias since I have struggled with type 2 for the last 16 years and have a son with type 1 diabetes the last 12 years. So, we deal with this everyday. Here are some symptoms of diabetes if you wonder if you have it

http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/symptoms/?loc=db-slabnav

The test that gives you a 3 month average of your blood sugars is called the A1C. If you think you have it ask for this test to be done. You can also get a home test at the pharmacy

 

[Stravinsk]

So this isn't meant as a post to replace advise from a doctor. I just notice that people clearly don't understand the difference between type one and type two diabetes.
With type one diabetes it means that the body is producing very little if any insulin on its own. When a person is newly diagnosed it is possible it may be producing a little,but not enough. Most people find out they have this when they are have symptoms and find out in the hospital. For a person with type 1 the only way they get insulin is through a shot or the pump. Oral medications don't help someone with type one.

Type two diabetes means your insulin is not being absorbed well or as effective as it once was. For this type person oral medications, diet and exercise can often be the only thing they need. But, since diabetes is progressive it means over time it gets harder to control and manage and you may have to go on insulin.

There are a lot of people talking online about how you can be cured of diabetes due to diet or exercise. That is not true at all. These are usually people who are eating little to no carbs. They are managing their diabetes through diet. It didn't go away, it is being managed which is different.

Now, doctor use the term pre diabetes. This is fairly new for them to be using this term. It's kinda like saying your pre pregnant. The truth is that you either have it or you don't.

I admittedly am bias since I have struggled with type 2 for the last 16 years and have a son with type 1 diabetes the last 12 years. So, we deal with this everyday. Here are some symptoms of diabetes if you wonder if you have it

http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/symptoms/?loc=db-slabnav

The test that gives you a 3 month average of your blood sugars is called the A1C. If you think you have it ask for this test to be done. You can also get a home test at the pharmacy

Regarding the part I made bold. I have never heard of diabetes being cured through exercise alone. I have heard of it being cured through diet - but not diet as you have described it. Carbs are on the menu. However, the people I have heard are curing diabetes and other diseases are doing it through

Whole food, plant based foods, leaving out all chemicals(artificial sweeteners, preservatives), isolates (like sugar, dextrose, etc), and all animal products (Vegan). "As presented by Nature" is typically the theme, with the only processing being that which is needed to release nutrients (for example, soaking/sprouting beans/seeds/grains and/or cooking them longer to remove naturally occurring anti-nutrients). Carbohydrates, as presented by fruit, vegetables and properly prepared legumes, grains etc, are definitely part of this diet.

There is a lot of buzz on the net and people are putting their names and reputations behind whole, plant based food for curing diseases. That doesn't make it true, it makes it, in my opinion, worth investigating to see what kind of data and results people are getting.

 

[NewCreation435]

Yes, I have heard that too. There is a lot of people on the internet that make stuff up. As you know, just because someone said it on the internet doesn't make it true.

 

[Stravinsk]

Yes, I have heard that too. There is a lot of people on the internet that make stuff up. As you know, just because someone said it on the internet doesn't make it true.

Sheesh, talk about being patronizing. The science is out there. I mean real science by real people who put their real names and real qualifications to their studies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662288/

Includes references.

There's even a section addressing diabetes.

 

[NewCreation435]

Sheesh, talk about being patronizing. The science is out there. I mean real science by real people who put their real names and real qualifications to their studies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662288/

Includes references.

There's even a section addressing diabetes.

I already said that a healthy diet is a approach that people use to help treat type 2 in my OP. It doesn't say anything that I could see that this diet would cure anything. if it does maybe you could point it out since I'm not going to sift through all of this to try and find it. It is common sense that if you eat good food and not garbage that it will be better for you. The exact post is:

"A low-fat, plant-based diet with no or little meat may help prevent and treat diabetes, possibly by improving insulin sensitivity and decreasing insulin resistance."

Which is what I said. It helps to treat it. It doesn't cure it.

 

[Stravinsk]

I already said that a healthy diet is a approach that people use to help treat type 2 in my OP. It doesn't say anything that I could see that this diet would cure anything. if it does maybe you could point it out since I'm not going to sift through all of this to try and find it. It is common sense that if you eat good food and not garbage that it will be better for you.

Pfft. That article is not so long as to be prohibitive reading, especially not for someone with a serious disease. The section on Diabetes alone is only 2 paragraphs, man! The few studies that those paragraphs highlight should be enough to wet your appetite to find more - since after all the article is not a comprehensive list, but rather a summary for physicians.

Or, ignore it. Keep suffering the effects of your disease and eat how you like. Your choice.

 

[NewCreation435]

Pfft. That article is not so long as to be prohibitive reading, especially not for someone with a serious disease. The section on Diabetes alone is only 2 paragraphs, man! The few studies that those paragraphs highlight should be enough to wet your appetite to find more - since after all the article is not a comprehensive list, but rather a summary for physicians.

Or, ignore it. Keep suffering the effects of your disease and eat how you like. Your choice.

As I said, this diet doesn't cure anything.

 

[Stravinsk]

As I said, this diet doesn't cure anything.

According to Genesis, this was the diet that only righteous men ate up until the flood. It was the diet God intended for man.

Deny this, and you Deny the God of the Bible.

According to the prophet Daniel, chapter 1, vs 12 - all Daniel's men ate this diet and improved in health over 10 days. The word "pulse" means "vegetables, as sown", so it would include soaked/sprouted seeds, nuts and legumes.

Deny this, and you Deny the prophet Daniel, and the God he represents.


Now go run along to Saul/Paul who will tell you what you want to hear instead. For he does say Vegetarians are "weak in faith" and tells his followers to not raise any questions of conscience, even if their meat has been sacrificed to idols.

 

[NewCreation435]

According to Genesis, this was the diet that only righteous men ate up until the flood. It was the diet God intended for man.

Deny this, and you Deny the God of the Bible.

According to the prophet Daniel, chapter 1, vs 12 - all Daniel's men ate this diet and improved in health over 10 days. The word "pulse" means "vegetables, as sown", so it would include soaked/sprouted seeds, nuts and legumes.

Deny this, and you Deny the prophet Daniel, and the God he represents.


Now go run along to Saul/Paul who will tell you what you want to hear instead. For he does say Vegetarians are "weak in faith" and tells his followers to not raise any questions of conscience, even if their meat has been sacrificed to idols.

that's a really poor interpretation of what Paul said and out of context to what he was talking about. I notice you like to do that.

 

[Stravinsk]

that's a really poor interpretation of what Paul said and out of context to what he was talking about. I notice you like to do that.

It's not out of context. Your teacher, the murderer Saul/Paul of Tarsus who never had to pay for his slaughtering of the new converts and whom the State protects, teaches Christians meat sacrificed to idols is just fine and dandy to eat. It only becomes a problem for the "weak of faith" and abstaining only necessary because of the "weak brother". Why not read 1 Corinthians chapter 8.

The idea that vegetarians are "weak in faith" and that we can "eat all things" is promoted also in Romans 14.

Insofar as meat sacrificed to idols, your Rabbi promotes Idolatry in this way. One might as well say "bow to the statue, because it doesn't really matter - it's only wood or stone, it has no life, there is only one God, so it doesn't matter if you do this".

 

[Lamb]

I already said that a healthy diet is a approach that people use to help treat type 2 in my OP. It doesn't say anything that I could see that this diet would cure anything. if it does maybe you could point it out since I'm not going to sift through all of this to try and find it. It is common sense that if you eat good food and not garbage that it will be better for you. The exact post is:

"A low-fat, plant-based diet with no or little meat may help prevent and treat diabetes, possibly by improving insulin sensitivity and decreasing insulin resistance."

Which is what I said. It helps to treat it. It doesn't cure it.

Diet can help control a lot of our ailments but doesn't always necessary cure it as you've stated. I think diabetics have the toughest time in getting their diet on track.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I like vegetables but meat is good too. I do not have diabetes but what the future may hold I do not know.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Stravinsk's posts are not mean-spirited even when they are spiky.

 

[Lamb]

Cool it with the accusations.

Back on topic please!

 

[tango]

I've removed a few posts here. Let's stay on topic and not make things personal.

 

[NewCreation435]

Diet can help control a lot of our ailments but doesn't always necessary cure it as you've stated. I think diabetics have the toughest time in getting their diet on track.

You can count carbs and do the same things two days in a row, same amount of insulin and get different results. Because it isn't just a matter of insulin. Stress and being sick can also put stress on the body and cause blood sugars to go up. I know when I have a hard day at work or I have to do crisis management because one of my clients is in the hospital or going there it makes my number temporarily elevate.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Last night on Radio National (an Australian Broadcasting Corporation radio station) there was a discussion about type 2 diabetes in which a doctor observed that sometimes when a patient lost between 10% and 15% of the body mass fairly quickly their type 2 diabetes symptoms disappeared. He did not say it always happened or even that it was very common but it does happen sometimes. So it seems that loss of weight/fat can effect a symptomatic "cure".

 

[psalms 91]

I can testify to that. I have type 2 and weigh around 200 pounds, if I drop to 185 as I have whe n i could exercise I didnt have it anymore

 

[Ruth]

I've removed a few posts here. Let's stay on topic and not make things personal.

I'm sure you know what you are doing and thank you.

 

[NewCreation435]

Last night on Radio National (an Australian Broadcasting Corporation radio station) there was a discussion about type 2 diabetes in which a doctor observed that sometimes when a patient lost between 10% and 15% of the body mass fairly quickly their type 2 diabetes symptoms disappeared. He did not say it always happened or even that it was very common but it does happen sometimes. So it seems that loss of weight/fat can effect a symptomatic "cure".

I can say that times when I have been under 190 it has helped in controlling my blood sugars. I don't know why. Exercise also helps tremendously which is why I am at the gym 5 times a week.