THE COMING FALSE MESSIAH IN JERUSALEM

[Truth7t7]

I recognize you from another Forum. You were espousing the old failed Reformer's 16th century ideas that the pope is the Antichrist, which is not true, and nor does Revelation even refer to Rome.

Plus you were pushing men's false doctrines of 2nd century Gnostic Amillennialism which does not believe Christ's future "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20 is literal.

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shaall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[SetFree]

Well, there will... be a "thousand years" Millennial literal reign by Lord Jesus Christ with His elect, as written in Revelation 20.

What you are espousing is the false doctrine of Amillennialism from the 2nd century Gnostics that crept into the early Church. We've been through all this before on the other forum.

 

[Truth7t7]

Well, there will... be a "thousand years" Millennial literal reign by Lord Jesus Christ with His elect, as written in Revelation 20.

What you are espousing is the false doctrine of Amillennialism from the 2nd century Gnostics that crept into the early Church. We've been through all this before on the other forum.

What is your name on the other forum, I don't recall a "SetFree"?

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

The resurrection of "All" is seen below and the wicked are judged to eternal damnation, this is when the "Final Judgement" takes place (The End)

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 Jesus clearly taught that the resurrection of "All" takes place on "The Last Day" this is in perfect agreement with the scripture above

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

[SetFree]

What is your name on the other forum, I don't recall a "SetFree"?

Wouldn't you like to know!

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return

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Nope. Your are inserting men's false Amill ideas at the 'expense' of wrong interpretation of those Scriptures.

Paul in 1 Cor.15:24-28 showed that Jesus must FIRST reign over all His enemies, PRIOR to the coming of the END. That idea is clearly stated by Apostle Paul there.

1 Cor 15:24-25
24 Then cometh the end, when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.
KJV

That "when" is a type of Boolean expression; it's conditional. It means the first phrase ("Then cometh the end,...") depends on the condition of that next phrase having happened ("... when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power."). And that aligns perfectly with what Lord Jesus revealed to Apostle John in the event order of Revelation 20 with Christ's future reign with His elect over the nations for a literal "thousand years" period.

 

[Truth7t7]

Paul in 1 Cor.15:24-28 showed that Jesus must FIRST reign over all His enemies, PRIOR to the coming of the END. That idea is clearly stated by Apostle Paul there.

1 Cor 15:24-25
24 Then cometh the end, when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.
KJV

That "when" is a type of Boolean expression; it's conditional. It means the first phrase ("Then cometh the end,...") depends on the condition of that next phrase having happened ("... when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power."). And that aligns perfectly with what Lord Jesus revealed to Apostle John in the event order of Revelation 20 with Christ's future reign with His elect over the nations for a literal "thousand years" period.

Just as scripture teaches below, the "Last Enemy Death" is destroyed at the future second coming and resurrection (Then Cometh The End)

1.) Jesus returns and the resurrection takes place (Then Cometh The End)

2.) When the mortal body is changed from corruption to incorruption at the resurrection seen (Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory) the (Last Enemy Death Is Destroyed) no millennial kingdom on this earth following

3.) At this time the Kingdom is delivered up to God the Father, eternity begins in the NHNE, the Last Enemy Death has been destroyed

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 52-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

 

[Lamb]

Well, there will... be a "thousand years" Millennial literal reign by Lord Jesus Christ with His elect, as written in Revelation 20.

What you are espousing is the false doctrine of Amillennialism from the 2nd century Gnostics that crept into the early Church. We've been through all this before on the other forum.

Amillennialism is not a false doctrine. The Bible Study section is not for debate, please.

 

[Truth7t7]

Amillennialism is not a false doctrine. The Bible Study section is not for debate, please.

I Agree

 

[SetFree]

Amillennialism is not a false doctrine. The Bible Study section is not for debate, please.

I can never agree that Amillennialism is not a false doctrine. And The Bible easily disproves it. So if this is a forum where one is not allowed to show how The Word of God reveals falsehood, then this is not really a true Christian forum, but only a forum that allows just any doctrine of man to be advertised.

 

[Truth7t7]

Amillennialism is not a false doctrine. The Bible Study section is not for debate, please.

Do you have a forum where theological debate can take place?

 

[Lamb]

Do you have a forum where theological debate can take place?

Debates are allowed here in the Christian Theology forum:

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