Sunday Worship vs. the Biblical Sabbath

[Webster]

Unlock the hidden truth about the Sabbath in this eye-opening discussion with Pastor Mark Finley and Matt Gray. Is Sunday worship a deception? Have Christians been misled about the true day of worship? Discover the compelling biblical evidence that could change your life.

In this video, we tackle one of the biggest arguments in Christianity: the Sabbath. Many believe it's an Old Testament practice meant only for the Jews, but you'll be surprised to learn the history of why this is believed. We go into Scripture, from Genesis to Revelation, revealing God's intention for the Sabbath as a day of worship and rest for all humanity.

Is the Sabbath a matter of personal choice?
What does the Bible say about worshipping on the seventh day?
How did Sunday worship become so widespread?
What role does the Sabbath play in the end times?

Join us as we explore these questions and more, providing a clear understanding of God's unchanging commandment. We'll also uncover historical shifts that led to the widespread adoption of Sunday worship and expose the real reason behind this change.

Don't miss this deep dive into one of the most misunderstood yet crucial topics in Christianity. Your perspective on the Sabbath, the Lord's day might never be the same.

This dovetails on the prior thread about the Sabbath I posted some days before....

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[Frankj]

Essentially, God declared the seventh day Sabbath then man decided he had a better idea.

A reflection of man deciding he had a better idea than God about the dietary laws God gave him in the Garden of Eden?

God always knows best and gives us the that are for our greatest good, then Man always decides he knows better and changes them to suit himself.

 

[BruceLeiter]

Essentially, God declared the seventh day Sabbath then man decided he had a better idea.

A reflection of man deciding he had a better idea than God about the dietary laws God gave him in the Garden of Eden?

God always knows best and gives us the that are for our greatest good, then Man always decides he knows better and changes them to suit himself.

Are you still killing people when they break the Sabbath rules @Frankj? Of course not. The NEW covenant, which Jesus instituted in Luke's account of the Last Supper, replaces Passover with the Lord's Supper and circumcision with baptism. However, the inner principles of one day in seven, rest, and group worship carry on in the new covenant, while the external rules for the nation of Israel are gone.

 

[Webster]

Essentially, God declared the seventh day Sabbath then man decided he had a better idea.

Exactly.

 

[BruceLeiter]

Exactly.

No, Jeremiah, Jesus, and Paul had a better idea (the new form of the covenant):

Jer 31:31 “Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
Jer 31:32 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD.
Jer 31:33 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”
Luk 22:20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

Col 2:13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,
Col 2:14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.
Col 2:15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.
Col 2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

 

[Frankj]

No, Jeremiah, Jesus, and Paul had a better idea (the new form of the covenant):

Jer 31:31 “Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
Jer 31:32 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD.
Jer 31:33 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”
Luk 22:20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

Col 2:13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,
Col 2:14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.
Col 2:15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.
Col 2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

So are you meaning that Jesus declared the first day of the week as the 'sabbath' in place of the Seventh day Sabbath that Jerimiah says God put within them (Israel) and wrote on their hearts?

Or did Man do that, replacing the seventh day God declared with his own declaration of the first day in its place.

 

[Webster]

This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

Yes, but which law did he nail to the cross, Bruce?
The Mosaic law or the Ten Commandments?

 

[BruceLeiter]

Yes, but which law did he nail to the cross, Bruce?
The Mosaic law or the Ten Commandments?

He nailed the external FORM of all the laws, which were national laws for Israel, to the cross; whereas the internal principles of all the laws, which are for the international, new-covenant church, continue on. For example, you shall not murder continues on with the principle of the need to protect human life. You shall not commit adultery remains as protecting marriage along with keeping sex within it, @Webster.

Luk 22:20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

 

[Webster]

He nailed the external FORM of all the laws, which were national laws for Israel, to the cross; whereas the internal principles of all the laws, which are for the international, new-covenant church, continue on. For example, you shall not murder continues on with the principle of the need to protect human life. You shall not commit adultery remains as protecting marriage along with keeping sex within it, @Webster.

In other words, it wasn't the Ten Commandments, Bruce, of which the Fourth Commandment reminds us to keep God's Sabbath, something that long predated the Jews' of Jesus' day. Jesus Himself reminded His disciples in Mark that "the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath."

And I would remind you that it was first Pagan Rome under Constantine and then followed up by Papal Rome who changed the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday (in Constantine's case it was to garner support amongst pagans, in the Catholic Church's case it was to consolidate power and punish dissenters).

 

[Truth7t7]

The 10 commandments are alive and well today, including the 7th day sabbath

It was Roman Emperor Constatine that changed 7th day Sabbath observance to "Sunday" to satisfy the pagans in the Roman empire that worshipped the "Sun" as their deity, it was a direct decree in the Roman empire and it hasn't changed to this day (Blue Laws)

Emperor Constatine donated the land that St. Peter's Basilica and Vatican City is build upon, this was the birth of the Roman Catholic Church, Constantine governed this religious body that became k own as the Roman State Church

Wikipedia: Sol Invictus
Constantine decreed (March 7, 321) DIES SOLIS – the day of the Sun, "Sunday" – as the Roman day of rest

On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for grain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.