Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man in the Shroud is Jesus Christ

[brian100]

Blind people can't see it.

Luke suggested I will be in Africa against Islam soon. When you see me there remember me. I don't know when I go yet. The Kingdom of Heaven will behind me if I go. He also has to give me good health if he wants me to go. But the postcard says I see the hot chick countries first so I remember what I'm fighting for? For our Sweethearts! Brian is my real name.

 

[Bluezone777]

Blind people can't see it.

Luke suggested I will be in Africa against Islam soon. When you see me there remember me.

Coincidentally, the arrogant can't recognize or acknowledge when they are wrong either. How exactly do you intend to "fight" Islam? I don't think you know the slightest clue as to what you are doing as you will likely just piss someone off over there and get yourself killed for nothing. You should really reconsider your little adventure because I don't see it ending well for you if you go on it.

 

[brian100]

Idk any details of where in Africa.. .but I hope its to South first... God will send his messengers to consult me on where to stand in front of Islam.

I'll just stand there.. and look at them. Nobody will kill me with God there. God raised me on Joan of Arc for the last 20 years. . . she was 17 I'll be 50+ or 60. I'm 52 now. I'm not afraid b/c I saw hell already.. its a life without your sweetheart in it. And an afterlife without her.

 

[Bluezone777]

So you are going to go all the way to Africa to stand around and stare at people and this is what you mean by "fight". What makes you think someone is even going to attempt to kill you over there for standing around and staring at people silently. They probably be quite confused than anything as to what you are doing and if you should start speaking then it's likely you only proceed to confuse them further with what you have to say.

 

[brian100]

They will know I'm American and Christian. Maybe I'll hold pictures of Mary and Jesus at them. Maybe I'll bring the Shroud work I did.

Idk .. I'll wait for God to tell me. Idk when I go yet. Idk what God will do to Islam with one mans faith. But if something happens u will know.

 

[Bluezone777]

There's also the issue of the language barrier as it's likely most people if not all of them that you will encounter will not be able to speak or understand English. Did you even consider this bit at all? It doesn't look like you thought very much into this which is why I doubt you should go to such a place when it appears little to no planning has taken place for this trip.

 

[brian100]

I used to have horrible nightmares battling Islam 10+ years ago in an Army. But I don't think that was me. . . It was my resolve. If I go I'm a let God handle it. I'll ask him where he wants me to stand in front of Islam. Islam is nothing to my religion and faith.

Here's where Luke said Africa.. read the story

I don't know what Africa means to me yet... so I do nothing.

 

[tango]

No the Sacred Heart proves its 100% Jesus Christ, and if you calculate the odds on the Immaculate Heart being there too,, its goes up to 1000% its him.

I'm the only person to prove who he was. Science could only prove no man has made that.

You're the only person to prove it, and your audience consists of a small number of people on a relatively insignificant message board and even with those considerations you have still not managed to convince anybody, as far as I can tell.

Perhaps you have a different concept of what "proof" means.

I wonder why Jesus didn't mention how important a few bits of cloth would prove to be. If it was so important you'd have thought he might have mentioned it, even if only in passing, no? Perhaps being raised from the dead messed with his head and he forgot, you never know. It's about as plausible as the "proof" you're offering here.

Mary saw Jesus alive. The disciples saw Jesus alive. They walked with him on the road to Emmaus. If we don't believe the testimony of people who saw it with their own eyes we're certainly not going to be convinced by a few bits of cloth that some stranger on a message board insists must be what once wrapped Jesus, even if carbon dating suggests it's off by 1000 years.

 

[tango]

Blind people can't see it.

Blind people can't see the gaping holes in their own presentations either. If all you've got is comments like that, on a board where most people are Christians, you really don't have anything useful at all.

Luke suggested I will be in Africa against Islam soon. When you see me there remember me. I don't know when I go yet. The Kingdom of Heaven will behind me if I go. He also has to give me good health if he wants me to go. But the postcard says I see the hot chick countries first so I remember what I'm fighting for? For our Sweethearts! Brian is my real name.

Hot chick countries? Sure, Africa is pretty hot this time of year. I'm not sure how many people go on mission trips for the hot chicks though, from what I gather it's more about spreading the gospel than worrying about hot chicks.

In one of your threads you said that treasure in a field was dead sweethearts, but now you're fighting for them? Aren't you depriving people of their "treasure in a field" if their sweetheart stays alive? I have to say your theology is one of the most weird I've seen in a while and I've seen some seriously wacky theology out there.

 

[brian100]

I said if you sweetheart is buried in a field she is a buried treasure to Jesus. A man could sell all he has for her to be there in heaven with him.


The preacher like to say woman is a sin. God gave man --->woman= heaven. Mark 10:6-9. This is why you see 2 hearts on the Shroud.

 

[Lamb]

I said if you sweetheart is buried in a field she is a buried treasure to Jesus. A man could sell all he has for her to be there in heaven with him.


The preacher like to say woman is a sin. God gave man --->woman= heaven. Mark 10:6-9. This is why you see 2 hearts on the Shroud.

As tango said, your theology is really off and isn't very reliant on having a Savior since you are making wild claims of things that will get you into heaven that are not biblical!

Selling everything you have will not earn you a spot into heaven.

You keep looking everywhere to earn heaven for yourself except at Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection because HE earned forgiveness of your sins. Faith in Him gets you to heaven.

 

[tango]

I said if you sweetheart is buried in a field she is a buried treasure to Jesus. A man could sell all he has for her to be there in heaven with him.

So what if your sweetheart was cremated or eaten by wild animals? What if your sweetheart was a man?

Selling everything you have won't get you to be with her. You can't buy a place in heaven and even if you could you don't go to heaven until after you are dead. Serious question, do you even know about the process of salvation? It seems you've got all these bizarre ideas and none of them is even remotely comparable to what Scripture teaches.

The preacher like to say woman is a sin. God gave man --->woman= heaven. Mark 10:6-9. This is why you see 2 hearts on the Shroud.

I've never heard any preacher ever say woman is a sin, and I've heard some real weirdos preach. I left one church because their theology was so far off-base I couldn't even be sure we were talking about the same god and even they didn't manage that one.

Here's a thought for you. If you are truly the only person who can prove just what this bit of cloth is, why aren't you on national if not international TV presenting your evidence? If you truly have proof for something significant why are you talking to half a dozen people on a moderately obscure message board about it?

 

[brian100]

So I wrote down Nairobi which is in Kenya after hearing it in my mind. Its the Safari Capital and has lots of Catholics. So what happens there?

No, preachers just imply looking at beautiful woman a sin, and maybe that's why their children turned same sex.

 

[Lamb]

I have moved this thread into the World Religion & Speculative Theology forum since you go beyond biblical Christian beliefs in your posts.

 

[Bluezone777]

Any preacher who says that is wrong. It's looking at a woman with lust that's a sin not just merely looking at a woman. It's not what you are doing in this case but why you are doing it that makes it sinful.

 

[brian100]

That's fine.. you guys have made it clear the Shroud isn't biblical and has nothing to do with Jesus.

 

[brian100]

I don't see looking at Beautiful woman as a sin. I have seen many in strip clubs when I was younger.
I see it as being a man. But wanting the one you don't love is another matter.

It appears looking at the Shroud is worse to a preacher? Cause Jesus is almost naked?

I don't see being naked as a sin either... otherwise you would have been born with clothes.

 

[Lamb]

The problem isn't that the shroud COULD be real. The problem is your claim that you receive eternal life by believing that it's real and those who do not believe aren't going to heaven. That's not biblical truth and denies the forgiveness of sins won at the cross as being our salvation.

 

[tango]

So I wrote down Nairobi which is in Kenya after hearing it in my mind. Its the Safari Capital and has lots of Catholics. So what happens there?

No, preachers just imply looking at beautiful woman a sin, and maybe that's why their children turned same sex.

Which preachers imply looking at a beautiful woman is a sin? The idea that one man looking at a beautiful woman turns their kids gay is frankly laughable.

Good job on writing down Nairobi. Now what?

 

[brian100]

Your faith starts with the Shroud.. I showed you its a Catholic Jesus.