Should Australia become a Republic?

[MoreCoffee]

So you expect professionals to act professionally?? Wow, what a concept.

:smirk:

Honest; we really would sack a "President" who tweeted the rubbish that Donald tweets.

 

[Imalive]

Honest; we really would sack a "President" who tweeted the rubbish that Donald tweets.

We have one like him. He's been brought to court for saying racist stuff. But here the prime minister tells him he called Erdogan from Turkey an Islamic monkey and he says: Act normal man! He didnt say that. Pechtold said: Now the Islamic monkey comes out of the sleeve, which is a saying, meaning: now we know what he's up to.
Our politicians are to act normal.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kldzNG7krD0

 

[MoreCoffee]

We have one like him. He's been brought to court for saying racist stuff. But here the prime minister tells him he called Erdogan from Turkey an Islamic monkey and he says: Act normal man! He didnt say that. Pechtold said: Now the Islamic monkey comes out of the sleeve, which is a saying, meaning: now we know what he's up to.
Our politicians are to act normal.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kldzNG7krD0

Sounds like you have a crazy politician too

 

[Imalive]

I think Donald would love to be prime minister in Holland. He could give 80 percent of his income to taxes I think and he'd get the Balkenende norm. That's 228.599 euro, the max that someone working for the govt or public may earn. LOL and have absolutely nothing to say in the world.

 

[user1234]

We know ppl are going to regret being anti-christian, but I also think theyre going to regret being anti-american, too.

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

Putting American politics aside for just a moment ( if I may), here's a link encapsulating some reasons that Australia might well be better off as a Republic: https://independentaustralia.net/au...play/the-case-for-an-australian-republic,3989.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I think Donald would love to be prime minister in Holland. He could give 80 percent of his income to taxes I think and he'd get the Balkenende norm. That's 228.599 euro, the max that someone working for the govt or public may earn. LOL and have absolutely nothing to say in the world.

We'd all have a party if Donald had nothing to say (or do) in the world

 

[MoreCoffee]

Putting American politics aside for just a moment ( if I may), here's a link encapsulating some reasons that Australia might well be better off as a Republic: https://independentaustralia.net/au...play/the-case-for-an-australian-republic,3989.

I think I'd like Australia to be a republic. But we'd only want an appointed President who has no executive powers. All we need is a head of state to smile at and greet foreigners have an occasional garden party and open things like parks and roads and buildings.

 

[Imalive]

I think I'd like Australia to be a republic. But we'd only want an appointed President who has no executive powers. All we need is a head of state to smile at and greet foreigners have an occasional garden party and open things like parks and roads and buildings.

They cost a bunch. Lots of Dutch want to get rid of that whole kings house. Way too expensive that nonsense.

 

[Pedrito]

Should Australia Become a Republic?

It probably should, ultimately. But with great care. Otherwise it will become the Totalitarian Republic that one Political Party has shown signs of wanting it to be.

(This might be fun to read, even for people from other countries in this forum.)

That Political Party (the “socialist” one) is the one that tried to stay in power illegally and indefinitely some years ago, by refusing to call an election as required by the Constitution.

Fortunately, the titular head of Australia (the almost powerless Governor General who reports to the Queen of England) had the power to sack any Prime Minister (head of government) that acted illegally. He did so. (He did not sack the government, despite what that Party’s propaganda machine continues to proclaim to this day.)

The ego of the sacked person induced him to take action against his replacement. And that knee-jerk reaction opened the way for the blocked election to finally take place, giving the people of Australia the chance to have their say (as the Governor General had astutely planned all along).

The people of Australia supported the Governor General’s actions by electing the non-socialist coalition into government with the greatest majority ever in the whole history of Australia.. That majority, that support for the Governor General’s actions, was huge.

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Since then, the “Socialist” Political Party has been pushing for a republic. But not just any style of republic. That Party doesn’t want the people to vote independently for the President as happens in the USA. That Party wants the President to be appointed by the Parliament. That Party would appoint one of its own the next time it gained power.

And what would happen then, if the “Socialist” Political Party wished to stay in power indefinitely once again? Would the President use his or her Constitutional Power to stop his or her own Party doing so? Would the new office of President even have that power?

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Let’s hope that the people of Australia don’t fall for the spin issuing from the “Socialist” Political Party as the republic is finally formed.

They could well have the “joy” of “repenting at leisure” if they do.

 

[tango]

I think I'd like Australia to be a republic. But we'd only want an appointed President who has no executive powers. All we need is a head of state to smile at and greet foreigners have an occasional garden party and open things like parks and roads and buildings.

A head of state to smile and wave and open things? Don't you already have one of those?

 

[tango]

They cost a bunch. Lots of Dutch want to get rid of that whole kings house. Way too expensive that nonsense.

In the UK people often complained about the cost of maintaining the Royal Family. At the time they cost as much in a year as the benefits budget cost in a couple of hours, and they bring in a lot to the country (tourism etc), so they really aren't all that expensive. Especially since so many of the lesser royals stopped getting so much.

Looking at UK politics I'd rather see the Queen as the head of state, than Queen Theresa or King Jeremy. Both are enough to make me shudder.

 

[MoreCoffee]

In the UK people often complained about the cost of maintaining the Royal Family. At the time they cost as much in a year as the benefits budget cost in a couple of hours, and they bring in a lot to the country (tourism etc), so they really aren't all that expensive. Especially since so many of the lesser royals stopped getting so much.

Looking at UK politics I'd rather see the Queen as the head of state, than Queen Theresa or King Jeremy. Both are enough to make me shudder.

The UK taxpayers are net beneficiaries from the Royal family. The income from the land and properties owned by the royal family is in the billions and it is paid to the UK government in the terms of the agreement where they get paid by the government. If the government stopped paying them then the incomes from their lands and properties would revert to them and they'd be a lot better off financially.

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

The UK taxpayers are net beneficiaries from the Royal family. The income from the land and properties owned by the royal family is in the billions and it is paid to the UK government in the terms of the agreement where they get paid by the government. If the government stopped paying them then the incomes from their lands and properties would revert to them and they'd be a lot better off financially.

So, the United Kingdom benefits from having a monarchy. Well and good. What benefits do Australians enjoy as ( perhaps technically) British subjects?

 

[MoreCoffee]

So, the United Kingdom benefits from having a monarchy. Well and good. What benefits do Australians enjoy as ( perhaps technically) British subjects?

As far as I know Australia does not pay the royal family anything unless they are here on a visit. The standing representative of her majesty is our governor general and he is an Australian and his salary is not too bad but not in the millions.

 

[Pedrito]

Post #77 (of the Governor General):

Yes, garden parties and opening things.

Opening things, most definitely.

Who knows?

He may even have a can of baked beans for breakfast each morning.

 

[tango]

As far as I know Australia does not pay the royal family anything unless they are here on a visit. The standing representative of her majesty is our governor general and he is an Australian and his salary is not too bad but not in the millions.

So if there's no cost and minimal benefit, presumably it doesn't make a whole lot of difference if you remove Her Majesty from her ceremonial role?

 

[MoreCoffee]

So if there's no cost and minimal benefit, presumably it doesn't make a whole lot of difference if you remove Her Majesty from her ceremonial role?

The only difficulty is that it requires several constitutional changes.

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

The only difficulty is that it requires several constitutional changes.

Is the process of making those amendments so complicated that the average Australian politicians can't be bothered with it?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Is the process of making those amendments so complicated that the average Australian politicians can't be bothered with it?

We make constitutional changes only if the majority of voters in the country and a majority in a majority of states agrees to the changes proposed by the politicians so it is the public that needs to be convinced to make the changes.